Rusko & David Icke

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:49 pm

FSTZ wrote:sure the lizard people stuff is far fetched, but his points about love and understanding being the ultimate key to happiness & success are more than valid

that's exactly whyto write him off as a complete twit is necessary

first of all because the valid points he makes are contaminated with the same rejection he gets for the reptilian mambo jumbo. and that's worse than if he'd shut up.
many people who now say we gotta take what's good from him used to know him as the reptilian guy who doesn't deserve a chance. but most of the peeps never made that step and probably never will. and i find that perfectly safe, if we can't make it without icke we're screwed anyway

second because if he has the mind to perceive the valid points he makes, then for sure all the shit he lays on top of that is deliberate, which casts a big shadow of doubt over his intentions.

wheelchairprince · Post by **wheelchairprince** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:53 pm

Raize wrote:
jduffy wrote: Look at Tupac, Micheal Jackson, both killed.

Tupac and MJ? An order controlling the world concerns themselves with Tupac and MJ? Pull the other one mate.

I used to think religion was pointless, but if a lack of religion leads to a load of impressionistic young teens believing in any old crap then I'm all for us going back to the Crusades.

They did Jill Dando as well.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:07 pm

Neurotik wrote:
SwiftGuyver wrote:david icke has always made some decent points...

he just lets himself down when he starts talking about lizard people...
I agree. What he was saying on social conformity, condemnation for the sheep that dares stray from the flock, and the overall state of freedom and society as a whole today is totally right imo.

When he starts talking about the bloodlines and royal control consipracy i sort of felt abit put off. Not because the ideas are challenging to what i percieve to be reality but just completely illogical nonesense. I mean, i could sit here and make up the most random nonsensical bullshit ever and then when questioned say "how do you know? you're just too scared of being different", religious fundamentalists and cults have been using this method for as long as i can see. Certain people love to create this dramatic world around themselves to feel part of something bigger, even to give themselves a sense of higher enlightenment above others i guess. Don't get me wrong though, this guy really seems like intelligent bloke with some great underlying principles and ideas that i think more people need to adapt and understand, but alot of it seems channeled in the wrong direction.

Well, that's what i think of Rusko anyways. I think David Icke seemed like a nice bloke .

lol

saw what you did there

evilc · Post by **evilc** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:58 pm

I havnt got a clue whats going on!

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:03 pm

alien pimp wrote:
FSTZ wrote:sure the lizard people stuff is far fetched, but his points about love and understanding being the ultimate key to happiness & success are more than valid
that's exactly whyto write him off as a complete twit is necessary

first of all because the valid points he makes are contaminated with the same rejection he gets for the reptilian mambo jumbo. and that's worse than if he'd shut up.
many people who now say we gotta take what's good from him used to know him as the reptilian guy who doesn't deserve a chance. but most of the peeps never made that step and probably never will. and i find that perfectly safe, if we can't make it without icke we're screwed anyway

second because if he has the mind to perceive the valid points he makes, then for sure all the shit he lays on top of that is deliberate, which casts a big shadow of doubt over his intentions.

you think he's some kinda disinformation plant??

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:52 pm

icke is a DON

seriously.

hackman · Post by **hackman** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:18 pm

^^

all hes doing is presenting ideas to you that you would not normally be exposed too
hes always said that people should make up their own minds from what he presents
and in the project camelot video that parson posted (very good watch) he says that the elite/illuminati/whatever were reptillian in the sense that they had no conscience, i.e. were almost robotic, which enabled them to start wars/engineer 9 11 so easily
tbh ive never read the reptillian stuff, seems ludicrous, but everything else he says pretty much i agree with

hackman · Post by **hackman** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:19 pm

Raize wrote:This thread is just one advert for why too much weed makes you completely and totally fucking retarded.

I mean, grown people, taking david icke seriously? What. The. Fuck.

fuck you

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:36 pm

FSTZ wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
FSTZ wrote:sure the lizard people stuff is far fetched, but his points about love and understanding being the ultimate key to happiness & success are more than valid
that's exactly whyto write him off as a complete twit is necessary

first of all because the valid points he makes are contaminated with the same rejection he gets for the reptilian mambo jumbo. and that's worse than if he'd shut up.
many people who now say we gotta take what's good from him used to know him as the reptilian guy who doesn't deserve a chance. but most of the peeps never made that step and probably never will. and i find that perfectly safe, if we can't make it without icke we're screwed anyway

second because if he has the mind to perceive the valid points he makes, then for sure all the shit he lays on top of that is deliberate, which casts a big shadow of doubt over his intentions.
you think he's some kinda disinformation plant??

my impression he's just a smarter fool fooling the average fool

Cosine · Post by **Cosine** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:53 am

Hahaha David Icke, reppin the Isle of Wight

So proud to live on the same island as him...

dubloke · Post by **dubloke** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:10 am

Havent read the whole of this thread but I gathered its to do with conspiracy theories. Whos seen Zietgiest? I love seeing stuff like that. Really interesting. You dont have to believe it or think the people who make it are mad, I just like hearing stuff that might be true and that I cant be arsed to research it.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

If you've got a spare hour or so give it a watch, I think its pretty interesting

dubloke · Post by **dubloke** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:21 pm

some ones been stealing someones saying!

1:35:51 in the Ziegiest Addendum

and some point in the Wogan - Ike interview

sheep without a sheep dog.....

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:50 pm

Joe Muggs wrote:
hackman wrote:lol whatever, hardly makes him a supporter of racism
Well it does, if his work is used as justification by racist groups.

I suppose that makes people who donned the Swastika 1000 years ago izan's as well then. Clearly they hated Jews.

Anyway, my point is that I don't think someone appropriating your thoughts for their cause makes your thoughts any less important, nor should it associate you with them. There are a lot of people who think the US Constitution means all sorts of shit. I don't think the people who wrote the Constitution necessarily thought like those assholes.

buckfaster · Post by **buckfaster** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:20 pm

Surface_Tension wrote:
Joe Muggs wrote:
hackman wrote:lol whatever, hardly makes him a supporter of racism
Well it does, if his work is used as justification by racist groups.

I suppose that makes people who donned the Swastika 1000 years ago izan's as well then. Clearly they hated Jews.

Anyway, my point is that I don't think someone appropriating your thoughts for their cause makes your thoughts any less important, nor should it associate you with them. There are a lot of people who think the US Constitution means all sorts of shit. I don't think the people who wrote the Constitution necessarily thought like those assholes.

It is a bit suspect that holocaust deniers and neo-izan/extreme-right figures are his booking agents for Canada, the US, and Europe.

And as for "appropriating your thoughts", he didn't write the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but he did endorse them, and those were written by Tsarist anti-Semites. And on a similar note, you can lament the mis-appropriation of your material by less-than-savoury elements, but to essentially have them book your tours and put money in your pocket, I'd say that speaks volumes.

Also, the guy is clearly batshit insane.

hackman · Post by **hackman** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:54 am

buckfaster wrote:It is a bit suspect that holocaust deniers and neo-izan/extreme-right figures are his booking agents for Canada, the US, and Europe.

proof?

time · Post by **time** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:13 pm

My only criticism of David Icke is his material/research in his books belongs to Jordan Maxwell (well 85% atleast) and he hasnt given Jordan any credit anywhere ever.

time · Post by **time** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:14 pm

LOLZ i expect 99% of people on this forum havnt even heard of Jordan Maxwell

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