Will Dubstep lead the Revolution?

numaestro · Post by **numaestro** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:45 pm

Will dubstep lead the revolution? Nah - revolutions suck. First comes the overthrow - the carnival, a few rays of hope. Then the terror, the clampdown the return to the status quo - often worse certainly not better than the original situation. Read your history - seen

macphellimey · Post by **macphellimey** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:09 pm

numaestro wrote:Will dubstep lead the revolution? Nah - revolutions suck. First comes the overthrow - the carnival, a few rays of hope. Then the terror, the clampdown the return to the status quo - often worse certainly not better than the original situation. Read your history - seen

The Glorious Revolution, the American Revolution, the establishment of the Han dynasty, the Mexican Revolution against Spain, the July Revolution, the Velvet revolution - just a few historical examples that go against your model.

upreal · Post by **upreal** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:23 pm

no revolution will be happening in my eyes, everything's business these days. If you ask me, it's a matter of this year when the TC of dubstep arises.

dz · Post by dz » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:07 pm

upreal wrote:...If you ask me, it's a matter of this year when the TC of dubstep arises.

I think he's already here, but makes tunes we actually enjoy

rykastarn · Post by **rykastarn** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:23 pm

dz wrote:
upreal wrote:...If you ask me, it's a matter of this year when the TC of dubstep arises.
I think he's already here, but makes tunes we actually enjoy

Yep he is here

and so is the Revolution

when the police come with there batons just sit carmly and use ya vid phones to show the world wot happened
There scared of an Information war

Peace aand <3

DubStep Famo

And mister cemercialisum You ever insult me by calling a tune of mine
Bassline And make me rich
im the sort of person who when he hears that 7 and a half million people couldnt get in to glastonbury im looking for a field big enough for them all to come tooo

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:38 pm

thc wrote:heh, thats what we thought about DnB...

Sound system on DnB dosent affect your listening experience as much as Dubstep.

No I dont think Dubstep will become mainstream for radio. Clubs maybe, it will just get more popular.

.mite. · Post by **.mite.** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:40 pm

UFO over easy wrote:The bourgeoisie are already skanking to skream dubs. I'm middle class like you wouldn't believe mate.. and haven't you seen all the poncy, bearded, rectangular-glasses-wearing rephlex/planet mu geeks at Fwd>>?

well man, being from america... actually even if i grew up in London i still wouldn't mind those kids chillin' to my set.

as far as it hitting the Bourgeoise. I'm just hoping won't be a day where you go into the gap w/ your younger cousin and hear "midnight request line" doesn't happen. I remember thinking that the future cut rmx of "shake your body," was still dark and gritty... nah it wouldn't make it over. Well did anyone ever walkinto a gap in the Fall of 2002?

there's a difference b/t commercialism and straight hatin' on ppl that support the scene you do.

P.S.
I do not in any way applaud shopping at the Gap.

renegatus · Post by **renegatus** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:54 pm

The revolution will be silent.

jim · Post by **jim** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:26 pm

MacPhellimey wrote:
numaestro wrote:Will dubstep lead the revolution? Nah - revolutions suck. First comes the overthrow - the carnival, a few rays of hope. Then the terror, the clampdown the return to the status quo - often worse certainly not better than the original situation. Read your history - seen
The Glorious Revolution, the American Revolution, the establishment of the Han dynasty, the Mexican Revolution against Spain, the July Revolution, the Velvet revolution - just a few historical examples that go against your model.

Yes they were all revolutions against tyrannical dictatorships/autocracies/oligarchies. Not revolutions against democracy.

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:47 pm

reading a bit history i got sooo bored of revolutions! they just replace a bunch of thieves with another bunch of thieves.
even in music.
i dig guerrillas though

dubsteppa · Post by **dubsteppa** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:53 pm

mate dubz inna de area!!

check subindex on myspace, thats the shit thats causing de revolution, ganja massive representing in befo da reeeewwwwiiinnddd selecta!!

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:06 am

the revolution wont be televised!

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:08 am

metalboxproducts wrote:comparing a genre of music to a social revolution is a bit crass mate.

no offence but thats bolloks. all musical movements are representetive of a collective state of mind. if a state of mind is revolutionary in its own right then the music it creates will be exactly that. if not dubstep, then itll be something else

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:13 am

DarkfireDub wrote:'The revolution will not be televised..it'll be broadband broadcast worldwide...'
all changes in the world manifest because of personal transformation in people's hearts...if the music can heal inner conflicts and help us integrate our personalities and be inspired creatively it can help bring change...
also the dubstep network is invisible and under the radar, also those people creating it are pretty much on the cultural cutting edge, in terms of innovation and sound technology...sound creates and alters physical form and reality, so those that control the sound can transform our experience of the world...also anything done from love carries the vibration and transmits it, 'the fire ignites other torches yet the flame is not diminished'

revolution is evolution, nothing happens overnight but natural laws dictate cycles throughout time, we ultimately don't control reality, it exists independently of us and we just ride the wave...dubstep is the cultural expression of future consciousness, a dimension of sound based on inner-hearing and physical feeling, a tribal trance-dance that allows the spirit to flow

dub has always been strongly spiritual, political, revolutionary and tribal
'rebel music' for the ghetto youth, a form of worship and spiritual practice
'to meditate on bass weight', revolution won't come from violent explosive action in the world, but subtle changes in the inner world, the reclaiming of our own 'headspace', conscious realisaton of higher truth

be the change that you want to see in the world and through positive intention you can make it happen
'don't follow the trends follow the vibe, it's the vibe not the trends that keep us alive'

bless, peaceout
Z
www.myspace.com/darkfireaudio

everyone listen to this dude he knows wot the fuck is up! thats all from me tonight finally lol

renegatus · Post by **renegatus** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:26 am

ozols man wrote:
DarkfireDub wrote:revolution is evolution
everyone listen to this dude he knows wot the fuck is up! thats all from me tonight finally lol

No he doesn't. Revolution is the replacement of an old system with a new one, whereas evolution is a system within which things develop.

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:33 am

revolution is illusion

darkfiredub · Post by **darkfiredub** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:44 am

Basically we're living in a post-democratic state with the stage set for full blown fascism...but a violent revolution would only cause more repressive tactics to be used on the people (eg. Burma, China, France, G8 protests)
the government ignored the will of the people in invading Iraq and Afghanistan and are trying to stimulate trouble and unrest in society (eg. Muslims vs. Christians) with fake-terror alerts and attacks like 7/7...mainly to divide us and also to bring in the Big Brother surveillance police state...ID cards, microchip implants, biometric database etc...
the economy is in freefall with recession biting...unemployment and shut down shop units everywhere...TV and popular music has become purely mindless brainwashing and distraction...the powers-that-be are worried and are trying to control any 'revolutionary' movements...

so hopefully dubstep will succeed because it's under their radar and unable to be subverted!

but did you know that they have military installations and underground bases that will be like concentration camps for ordinary citizens?
that we'll be asked to accept a microchip tracker implant in exchange for essential good and services?
that we are only few days away from starvation if food supplies are cut short?
that there will inevitably be a day soon that the garages and supermarkets closed, cashpoints out of order, credit cards declined, no mobile signals...maybe no internet

Films like V For Vendetta, 28 Days Later, Matrix, I Am Legend, Mad Max, Twelve Monkeys etc all deal with these themes and scenarios...

so yeah, the evolution is mental/spiritual
the revolution in real world terms would be...

-non-payment of all taxes and rent
-giving up all unecessary work
-investing any money in equipment (generators,vehicles, soundsystems!)
-reclaiming disused spaces and derelict properties
-stockpiling essential food and resources
-planting gardens and allotments (seeds are the most valuable commodity)
-building communities of like-minded people
-discussion groups, workshops, meetings etc.

basically everything that travellers and squatters have been doing for years The Criminal Justice Bill tried to stamp it out, as authorities know self-organisation and existence 'outside the system' is the real threat.

I agree that dubstep is the only innovative and inspiring movement in a cultural wasteland...but when all else falls, will it still be left
standing? Has it got the long-term vision of building a better world through music? Does it acknowledge the legacy and spiritual vision of dub?
Is it built on sand or rock...

knowledge is power
Z

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:54 am

dude, i pretty much agree with what you say it's upon us, obvious signs are everywhere, but involving dubstep in this is childish!
unfortunately, dubstep is just the music we love so much, but it carries no strong message so far. it's just quality entertainment that sometimes transcends this status, and when it does most often is oriented to the inner reality, not the outer one.
so spread the word, but don't count on the dubstep scene to light up anything (i'll be happy to be proven wrong about this).
and anyway, communities are good just to be confiscated through corrupted leadership, individual action is the key nowadays.

close this nonsensic thread, if you ask me!

misk · Post by **misk** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:25 am

alien pimp wrote:dude, i pretty much agree with what you say it's upon us, obvious signs are everywhere, but involving dubstep in this is childish!
unfortunately, dubstep is just the music we love so much, but it carries no strong message so far. it's just quality entertainment that sometimes transcends this status, and when it does most often is oriented to the inner reality, not the outer one.
so spread the word, but don't count on the dubstep scene to light up anything (i'll be happy to be proven wrong about this).
and anyway, communities are good just to be confiscated through corrupted leadership, individual action is the key nowadays.

close this nonsensic thread, if you ask me!

QFT

darkfiredub · Post by **darkfiredub** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:33 am

The best dubstep around at the moment seems to express the darkness of the times perfectly, the anticipation and tension of what's to come...the sadness for what's happened to the world...the deeper levels of consciousness being explored...the pulsating hidden energy in everything...stillness in meditation...the long dark night of the soul...storm clouds brewing on the horizon...soundtracks to the end time

esp. Distance - My Demons and Burial's albums, like emotional hymns to a fallen city, ghosts haunting an abandoned metropolis and distant voices echoing in the air...amazing stuff

also the 'Ghosts Of My Life' mix by OCR is a mind-blowing journey, dead of night bizness, big up the Cornwall crew!

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=40630

Track list;
Burial - Exit Wounds
Jamie woon - Wayfaring Stranger (Burial remix)
Parson - Empty houses
Parson - Ghostliner (distance rmx)
Bombaman - Rise Against
Distance - Fallen (Vex'd Remix)
Shackleton - Death is not final (T++ mix)
Shackleton - Death is not final
Breakage - clarendon
Late - Care
Bloc party - Flux (Burial remix)

'Death is not final...'
Z

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