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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by fuagofire » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:28 pm

hugh wrote:
fuagofire wrote:I'd have allot more time for the students if they were attacking the labour party too. The fact that over the last decade they spent more money than they could steal off working people and introduced tuition fee's in the first place, encouraging everybody to go to uni and turning the places into buisnesses rather than institutions. Now there is no fucking money left and the debt aquired while studying is going to be peanuts compared to the next 50 years of paying the countries debts off - more tax and less shit to show for it. btw anyone who thought that the lib dems could actually follow through with their manifesto promises when a) they didn't win the election and b)if they had won, they obviosly hadn't looked at how much the govornment owe the chinese when they were writing it, realy need to get a grip with the reality of the situation. I actualy dont agree with fee rises - it should be free, but, there are too many people at uni - mostly studying a bullshit degree. And this whole thing about people who don't go to get a uni being somehow uncultured and unable to create decent art and if it wasn't for all the media studies students we would all be confined to the x-factor for entertianment is just crass.
My uncle is a Physics Professor at Zurich University and used to work in England and has a lot of ties to the UK.
Every single colleague he knows that worked in England during the new Labour years said that the work Blair and Brown did to make university more accessible and to increase pay towards teachers was the single greatest advantage to the educational system they have ever seen.
It's far easier to blame the banks for this shitty situation everyone is in. And it is correct, too.
Don't let history rewrite itself to suit your needs!

yeah cos were up to our ears in physics/maths/engineering students arn't we?. chemical engineering labs didn't close down when the new fee systems started. Gordon Brown didn't de-regulate the banks, sell all our gold at a third of what it would be worth and bail out the banks with no conditions put apon them whatsoever.
Labour have fucked this country - like they all-ways do. There is no fucking money left. please re-read what i wrote and point out to me what exactly is suiting my needs - when im basically saying my country is fucked - yes that really suits my needs.

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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by JemGrover » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:48 pm

Was putting in an all night'er in Uni on Thursday, and got to watch all the events unfold in Parliament on some kid's laptop...
I'm a couple of years older then the rest of the guys who were there, but it were really disheartening to see 'em (all getting 90% + in their Maths Coursework) getting more animated over fires breaking out then the actual implementation of the new legislation

Can't help but feel there needs to be real, radical reform of the educational system in this country (bollocks to paying 3 grand to when it's decided I should be learning how to format Word documents and write moronic business speak BS flow charts on organisational skills :roll: )

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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by hugh » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:26 pm

fuagofire wrote:
hugh wrote:
fuagofire wrote:I'd have allot more time for the students if they were attacking the labour party too. The fact that over the last decade they spent more money than they could steal off working people and introduced tuition fee's in the first place, encouraging everybody to go to uni and turning the places into buisnesses rather than institutions. Now there is no fucking money left and the debt aquired while studying is going to be peanuts compared to the next 50 years of paying the countries debts off - more tax and less shit to show for it. btw anyone who thought that the lib dems could actually follow through with their manifesto promises when a) they didn't win the election and b)if they had won, they obviosly hadn't looked at how much the govornment owe the chinese when they were writing it, realy need to get a grip with the reality of the situation. I actualy dont agree with fee rises - it should be free, but, there are too many people at uni - mostly studying a bullshit degree. And this whole thing about people who don't go to get a uni being somehow uncultured and unable to create decent art and if it wasn't for all the media studies students we would all be confined to the x-factor for entertianment is just crass.
My uncle is a Physics Professor at Zurich University and used to work in England and has a lot of ties to the UK.
Every single colleague he knows that worked in England during the new Labour years said that the work Blair and Brown did to make university more accessible and to increase pay towards teachers was the single greatest advantage to the educational system they have ever seen.
It's far easier to blame the banks for this shitty situation everyone is in. And it is correct, too.
Don't let history rewrite itself to suit your needs!

yeah cos were up to our ears in physics/maths/engineering students arn't we?. chemical engineering labs didn't close down when the new fee systems started. Gordon Brown didn't de-regulate the banks, sell all our gold at a third of what it would be worth and bail out the banks with no conditions put apon them whatsoever.
Labour have fucked this country - like they all-ways do. There is no fucking money left. please re-read what i wrote and point out to me what exactly is suiting my needs - when im basically saying my country is fucked - yes that really suits my needs.
Hey, as far as the Banking system is concerned, I am totally with you.
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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by sonar » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:28 pm

'huddled round fires, sharing what little food we had'

it wasnt the fucking battle of Bastogne mate.
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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by 64hz » Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:28 am

sonar wrote:'huddled round fires, sharing what little food we had'

it wasnt the fucking battle of Bastogne mate.
dont get all pissed off cos hes younger, better educated and more eloquent then you :1:

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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by hasezwei » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:46 am

guys, this reminds me of germany on so many levels. just worse.
i think we should all ask our parents if politics have always been so utterly fucked, because i somehow feel like shit's going down lately and it's not gonna get better soon.
just look at the state of "democracy" nowadays: basically every election in the 3rd world and middle east is seen as faked by everyone yet no-one gives a shit, we have quasi-dictators like berlusconi and putin (whom is a badass at least, berlusconi is just embarassing for the whole of europe)...
add to that the fact that almost all bigger countries have only about 60% of people voting, and what that says about the legitimacy of the governments

i miss the times where it was considered normal to be member of a party, as opposed to nowadays where i'm being called a fucking GEEK for having an interest in politics by others...


salutes to all the people on the streets, i wish we had more like you over here.

EDIT: also fuck non-violent protesting if you declare any actual form of resistance violent or illegal. "oh yeah guys sure you can protest as long as you're quiet, don't block traffic and please keep off the lawn. thank you." might as well get violent if people actually get arrested for participating in seating-blockades here (seriously).

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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by fuagofire » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:47 am

sonar wrote:'huddled round fires, sharing what little food we had'

it wasnt the fucking battle of Bastogne mate.
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Re: up to £9000 UK tuition increase approved.

Post by fuagofire » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:48 am

64hz wrote:
sonar wrote:'huddled round fires, sharing what little food we had'

it wasnt the fucking battle of Bastogne mate.
dont get all pissed off cos hes younger, better educated and more eloquent then you :1:

well yeah, he seems privately educated.

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