The line between raw and badly produced

[nowaysj]

i would think is overkill... if u want to induce unpleasant sensations to the listener there are tens of ways to do it.. but having a piercing frequency that messes ur eardrum up isnt necessary imo

See aphex.

[Ficticious]

i would think is overkill... if u want to induce unpleasant sensations to the listener there are tens of ways to do it.. but having a piercing frequency that messes ur eardrum up isnt necessary imo

See aphex.

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And in short bursts ear fatigue won't happen if your high pitched sounds are done correctly. There are ways to go about doing this though and sometimes if oyu butcher it yes it'll kill the track. However, if you can get it just right sometimes it keeps the attention and adds to the track.

[MilkyThomas]

I read the title of this thread the other day and it's kinda been in my subconcious for a while, as I normally like to make things sound as polished as I can get them sounding cos I love nerding out over that kind of thing in other peoples music. Things like EQing things perfectly, too perfectly.. for example I watched a video of Four Tet in the studio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEUGilncRJs if you haven't seen it) and he's talking about "warmth" and how he doesn't really EQ that much.. and his tunes sound sick! I guess it depends on the music..

Anyway the point I was trying to get to is that this was in my mind the last while and so I made a tune that was deliberately not too overcooked, made it in a day so there was no time to really fuss over it or baby it. Now to me it does sound a bit blah because I have been listening to it for so long, and I can still hear where I cut corners and quickly finished things as it's fresh in my mind, but so far people I've played it for have enjoyed it a lot.

That's another thing to think about then, do the "general public" (not to sound like a knob) but non-producers and such, do they even notice as much? Obviously if it's like Group Doueh or some crusty old recording or glaringly bad they might but if the reverb is muddying the high mids of the mix a bit how much would the average person perceive that, if the music is still good I mean?

Sorry, a bit baked and rambley. Here's the tune I made for reference. I guess it's the kind of tune that is meant to sound a bit "raw" anyway so.. I dunno. I'm done.

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[fragments]

No. I don't think the average listener is going to notice a raw mix, especially if the music is good. I'm sure they'd notice a bad mix. But bad and raw are two different things.

[skimpi]

I hate stuff that sounds too clean. I do EQ to get rid of some stuff that isnt needed, and like if theres stuff taking up the same space then I EQ it for a bit of separation and so that it doesnt get too intense in that area, but I wouldnt say its that surgical. I even go out of my way to make stuff sound worse quality haha

[Kes-Es]

I cannot accurately express my surprise at how this post has done, I come in every now and then and check the DSF even though I don't produce, and this post is usually active, good shit.

[_helix]

I don't typically EQ hard or anything at all haven't been using compressors or limiters. I only use what I need to to get the sound I want.

If I'm making a bass via constant re-sampling then yeah I will EQ certain sounds I don't want out. But not really compress or limit i just rather use standard synthesis and creativity to get the sound I want or hell maybe I'll come up with a sound I haven't heard that sound badass.

Compression and Limiting is for non-creative cigarettes, and kills your sound and leaves you with a loud mess.

Kinda like a 20 year old retarded baby that won't stop crying... Brostep

[Mason]

Compression and Limiting is for non-creative cigarettes, and kills your sound and leaves you with a loud mess.

so you don't master your music?

[Ldizzy]

i think arrangements are a cleaver way to show talent. even with very basic soundscapes.

boddika comes to mind.