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wow bioware have seriously fucked some things up for me... can't really say because i don't want to spoil anything. The game itself is good but wtf

Has any1 on the consoles actually bought the DLC yet?
I'm just wondering how much of a necessity it is and whether it would hurt the overall experience and story of the game if I don't buy it right away.

vishes wrote:Has any1 on the consoles actually bought the DLC yet?
I'm just wondering how much of a necessity it is and whether it would hurt the overall experience and story of the game if I don't buy it right away.

It won't hurt the story much, if at all. You get one extra mission and a few conversations and such. It's not important to the main storyline at all.
That said, the new character is pretty cool

Ah alright, thanks
Probably just gonna get it later then.

Haven't bought the game due to the crap that Bioware/EA has been pulling nowadays recently, but I watched the endings and god damn are they bad.

I've put about 32 hours in so far and completed the DLC. It's overpriced but it was pretty interesting.

Still got a bit to do in regards to side missions, the main story line and character dialog.

I am on PS3 atm.

Completed it yesterday on Xbox, pretty sure I did all the side missions and stuff. I wouldn't say the ending(s) was bad, just a bit.. underwhelming, or short at least.
All in all I really enjoyed the game, now I'm on to complete it with my renegade and then I'm gonna start a New Game+. Still not tired of it one bit

JBoy wrote:So one of the most interesting aspects of the game is free to some but others will have to pay for it. Bollocks. Well done bioware.

I'm speaking for the brief points I was at bioware in the past calendar year as I've since moved on employment wise

but with origin, and with the big beef in console gaming being game gets sold twice, thrice, four times at gamestop and companies get paid once (always been a multimedia gripe) bioware went after incentives for players and a way to take in the money more relative to how much the game is making impact wise in the industry.

Now you're done with the game, if you see fit you can resell and recoup part of the value of your initial investment... but another player will have to buy in fully to get the same experience you did (if that makes sense).


This is the future of games with storylines that don't really go for replay value.

^Interesting point, but this still doesnt explain why some get dlc content for free and others dont.

JBoy wrote:^Interesting point, but this still doesnt explain why some get dlc content for free and others dont.

I've tried to distance myself from bioware drama (none really to be had just havent paid attention). But a lot of games are having issues working things out with origin and its relation to ps3 and xbox.... how those individual DLC's work, ie does proof of a dlc mean bioware gets cash?

I honestly don't know the ins and outs with each console... but i know batman had a similar issue with their DLC, SFxTekken has similar issues, and a lot of those have to do with when a game "goes gold" and with what content.

The free DLC shit on PC is from people editing coding to unlock what is on the disc.... people seem upset that they cant do that on their xbox or ps3 because when they went gold the content wasnt on the disc. Or that somehow Bioware took Mass Effect 3 version A - Subtracted DLC and sold you Mass Effect 3 Version B. Far from it. The way games are designed a lot of the times the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing and it seems like this was a simple case of DLC content making it into the PC gold and not the consoles.

People who bought the Collector's Edition gets the DLC for free (or rather, it's included in the price). Who's to deny them that extra perk seeing as they paid so much more for (mostly) fluff?

pkay wrote: but with origin, and with the big beef in console gaming being game gets sold twice, thrice, four times at gamestop and companies get paid once (always been a multimedia gripe) bioware went after incentives for players and a way to take in the money more relative to how much the game is making impact wise in the industry.

Yeah, but other industries with second hand markets learned ti deal with it rather than trying to kill it. One of the Bioware execs said

“There’s no point in releasing DLC a year after your game comes out when most people have already sold it back to Gamestop three times. So, that means getting it out early. That means day one DLC.”

Which is complete bullshit as that strategy works fine for Bethesda, Obsidian, Rockstar, and Gearbox. Hell, it even worked for Mass Effect 2, which had DLC come out over a year after the original game.

Really though, the DLC thing is only a part of the problem. Forbes has actually had the fairest coverage and sum up of the whole problem that I've seen.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/20 ... ntroversy/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/20 ... rom-ashes/

pkay wrote: The free DLC shit on PC is from people editing coding to unlock what is on the disc.... people seem upset that they cant do that on their xbox or ps3 because when they went gold the content wasnt on the disc. Or that somehow Bioware took Mass Effect 3 version A - Subtracted DLC and sold you Mass Effect 3 Version B. Far from it. The way games are designed a lot of the times the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing and it seems like this was a simple case of DLC content making it into the PC gold and not the consoles.

Yeah, but the thing is they said that the DLC was made after the main game was done, which is obviously not entirely the case.

collige wrote:

pkay wrote: The free DLC shit on PC is from people editing coding to unlock what is on the disc.... people seem upset that they cant do that on their xbox or ps3 because when they went gold the content wasnt on the disc. Or that somehow Bioware took Mass Effect 3 version A - Subtracted DLC and sold you Mass Effect 3 Version B. Far from it. The way games are designed a lot of the times the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing and it seems like this was a simple case of DLC content making it into the PC gold and not the consoles.

Yeah, but the thing is they said that the DLC was made after the main game was done, which is obviously not entirely the case.

I can tell you with all certainty that Mass Effect 3's main game has been done for a very long time.

It's the mmo'ification of console games.

Usually you have an "expansion" team working in tandem but completely unrelated to the core game at all times.

pkay wrote:

collige wrote:

pkay wrote: The free DLC shit on PC is from people editing coding to unlock what is on the disc.... people seem upset that they cant do that on their xbox or ps3 because when they went gold the content wasnt on the disc. Or that somehow Bioware took Mass Effect 3 version A - Subtracted DLC and sold you Mass Effect 3 Version B. Far from it. The way games are designed a lot of the times the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing and it seems like this was a simple case of DLC content making it into the PC gold and not the consoles.

Yeah, but the thing is they said that the DLC was made after the main game was done, which is obviously not entirely the case.

I can tell you with all certainty that Mass Effect 3's main game has been done for a very long time.

It's the mmo'ification of console games.

Usually you have an "expansion" team working in tandem but completely unrelated to the core game at all times.

Then obviously that leads to the question of why the DLC content wasn't included with the main game to begin with. Obviously the content is not completely separate from the main game as their excuse for putting DLC content on the disk was to make the character fit better within the main game. In other situations, I might have been okay with this, but I don't see how this can be spun as anything less than a cash grab on EA's part, especially given how important this character is to the lore of the series. They could have just as easily released him for free to those who bought the game new like they did with the Mass Effect 2 character.

my issue was with me3 that i played on a new character because i played the previous mass effects on xbox and pc. you miss so much of potential story lines because you did not have the save from mass effect 2 and 1. certain followers don't even appear wtf!!!

Does anyone know a way of downloading xbox 360 mass effect 2 saves for mass effect 3?
I've played through both games downloaded all the DLC and all that other stuff only to find that my save won't load.

aspect-dubz wrote:Does anyone know a way of downloading xbox 360 mass effect 2 saves for mass effect 3?
I've played through both games downloaded all the DLC and all that other stuff only to find that my save won't load.

Yeah I read that ME3 wont be able to load your previous saves if you saved them on Cloud instead of your hard disk. So have you done that? Cos if so, that would be the case I think. And then maybe you could try to find a way to somehow copy them to your HD.

vishes wrote:

aspect-dubz wrote:Does anyone know a way of downloading xbox 360 mass effect 2 saves for mass effect 3?
I've played through both games downloaded all the DLC and all that other stuff only to find that my save won't load.

Yeah I read that ME3 wont be able to load your previous saves if you saved them on Cloud instead of your hard disk. So have you done that? Cos if so, that would be the case I think. And then maybe you could try to find a way to somehow copy them to your HD.

Unfortunately it's not as simple as that, i think i might have overwritten my save game for a second playthrough of ME2 and then sold it without completing it again. I think the only option i have now is to buy ME2 to finish it off, which is definitely not going to happen.

pkay wrote:

collige wrote:

pkay wrote: The free DLC shit on PC is from people editing coding to unlock what is on the disc.... people seem upset that they cant do that on their xbox or ps3 because when they went gold the content wasnt on the disc. Or that somehow Bioware took Mass Effect 3 version A - Subtracted DLC and sold you Mass Effect 3 Version B. Far from it. The way games are designed a lot of the times the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing and it seems like this was a simple case of DLC content making it into the PC gold and not the consoles.

Yeah, but the thing is they said that the DLC was made after the main game was done, which is obviously not entirely the case.

I can tell you with all certainty that Mass Effect 3's main game has been done for a very long time.

It's the mmo'ification of console games.

Usually you have an "expansion" team working in tandem but completely unrelated to the core game at all times.

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5623 ... al-ending/ Actually it looks like that's not true, the Day One DLC was meant to be a part of the main game