No cameras tonight at FWD>>/RINSE @ The End

umkhontowesizwe · Post by **umkhontowesizwe** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:56 pm

to be honest, i think discussions like this are quite healthy. i'd be more worried if people just sat back and accepted things like this without even questioning....surely that's one of the things that seperates dubstep from all the other bullshit about? maybe i'm just being naive.

rekordah · Post by **rekordah** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:24 pm

tbh i never bring a camera to a rave....shit i dont even own a digi camera, but theres always a mate with a camera and i appreciate that the photos exist so u can look back on them, no matter how battered u look

i think alot of people have read too far into this in this thread (including me

) but to me it looks like its not really about the fact that u cant bring a camera, but more about the fact that everyone thats deep into dubstep feels very much a part of it and a no camrea policy seems like it creates a lack of that community sort of vibe that u get at dubstep raves.

like a said i dont care for taking pictures myself, but bringing one to dubstep rave certainly doesnt mean that u should piss off to fabric with your glowstick between ur legs.

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:38 pm

UFO over easy wrote:just sticking up for people being called haters or whatever just for having a strong opinion - rubs me up the wrong way

so you're hating on the hater haters?

i-line · Post by **i-line** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:01 pm

Blackdown wrote:
i-line wrote:
Blackdown wrote: Ammunition are not filming it themselves, instead preserving the sacredness of the live moment
Is that Blackdown or Ammunition speaking? Either way it's the most pretentious thing I've heard said in relation to dubstep in a long time.
That was me paraphrasing Ammo. Perhaps you'd can to go and find out the answers to questions dubstep forum people really want next time...

I thought I was a dubstep forum person.

I don't think I know how to find the answers to the questions dubstep forum people want. I don't think I said I did. Is there a difference between the questions dusbstep forum people really want and the questions they ask on the forum? I'm a bit confused...[/i]

geiom · Post by **geiom** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:59 pm

i-line wrote:
Blackdown wrote:
i-line wrote:
Blackdown wrote: Ammunition are not filming it themselves, instead preserving the sacredness of the live moment
Is that Blackdown or Ammunition speaking? Either way it's the most pretentious thing I've heard said in relation to dubstep in a long time.
That was me paraphrasing Ammo. Perhaps you'd can to go and find out the answers to questions dubstep forum people really want next time...
I thought I was a dubstep forum person. I don't think I know how to find the answers to the questions dubstep forum people want. I don't think I said I did. Is there a difference between the questions dubstep forum people really want and the questions they ask on the forum? I'm a bit confused...[/i]

I always wanted to know the meaning of life - should I ask corpsey or feasible weasel ?

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:06 pm

geiom wrote:I always wanted to know the meaning of life - should I ask corpsey or feasible weasel ?

I think you know the answer to that.

dubzy · Post by **dubzy** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:31 pm

hit the club up with some nakedness

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:40 am

rekorder wrote:tbh i never bring a camera to a rave....shit i dont even own a digi camera, but theres always a mate with a camera and i appreciate that the photos exist so u can look back on them, no matter how battered u look

i think alot of people have read too far into this in this thread (including me ) but to me it looks like its not really about the fact that u cant bring a camera, but more about the fact that everyone thats deep into dubstep feels very much a part of it and a no camrea policy seems like it creates a lack of that community sort of vibe that u get at dubstep raves.

like a said i dont care for taking pictures myself, but bringing one to dubstep rave certainly doesnt mean that u should piss off to fabric with your glowstick between ur legs.

Surely no cameras would actually develop a more community based spirit?

I mean, it would give a reason for people to turn up, to find out what its really like, generating a "mystique", something that only can be felt in person and not re-created at home through the medium of DVD or photos?

Its a bit like the genre itself in a way, I didnt quite understand dubstep properly until I turned up to a proper rave.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:17 am

dubzy wrote:hit the club up with some nakedness

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:07 am

Next time I reckon the organisers should hire a courtroom artist for the action-packed brock-out depictions.

How good would that be!

Or maybe one of those guys that do charcoal portraits of tourists.

geiom · Post by **geiom** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:00 am

[quote="masstronaut"]Next time I reckon the organisers should hire a courtroom artist for the action-packed brock-out depictions.

How good would that be!

LOL

I like that idea

fushimi · Post by **fushimi** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:30 am

You know in England it's illegal to take photos in court, but not only that, it's also illegal for court artist to draw during proceedings. They're only allowed to write notes about the people's faces, then they have to run out and draw the sketches from memory during breaks.

P.S. People aren't allowed to take photos at FWD cos of what a German TV crew did with a broadcast sized TV camera with full permission at DMZ (and everyone saying it was a big look) months ago?

dubwise_gamgee · Post by **dubwise_gamgee** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:44 am

i think the no-photo policy seems a bit backasswards but i can fully understand the no-video camera policy.

still, i can imagine that the news team (arte) didn't go unnoticed at that dmz event, but i really enjoyed seeing some high quality footage from dmz. plus the interviews and transition footage was very interesting too.

of course, at your favourite clubnight you don't want to have some bloke with a huge camera and light to run around and maybe bump into you, but that was once and i believe it was excellent promotion for the dubstep vibe and especially for the dmz gang.

reverendmedia · Post by **reverendmedia** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:45 am

dubwise_gamgee wrote:i believe it was excellent promotion for the dubstep vibe and especially for the dmz gang.

This illustrates the point here behind the no-camera policy - FWD/Rinse realise that they don't really need any more promotion. The ban was for the sake of the scene; sort of being cruel to be kind. Prince is doing the same thing at the Dome.

Edit: not that snaps of your friends counts as promotion exactly, but you can't make one rule for those people and another for those who use 'pro' equipment.

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:53 am

reverendmedia wrote:Prinse is doing the same thing at the Dome.

hmmm, fishy

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:13 pm

Fushimi wrote:P.S. People aren't allowed to take photos at FWD cos of what a German TV crew did with a broadcast sized TV camera with full permission at DMZ (and everyone saying it was a big look) months ago?

this isn't accurate, i merely included the example of the German film crew to illustrate the point.

FWD>> have been trying to avoid film cameras for a bit though, who remembers when Crazy Titch came down with Channel 4 and shone the biggest white, obtrusive light over the Plastic People decks? Totally spoilt the vibe.

osk · Post by **osk** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:16 pm

Blackdown wrote: FWD>> have been trying to avoid film cameras for a bit though, who remembers when Crazy Titch came down with Channel 4 and shone the biggest white, obtrusive light over the Plastic People decks? Totally spoilt the vibe.

Again, though, there's a big difference between full on video equipment and a disposable camera.

Still not convinced.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:22 pm

yeah camera's ruin the vibe at events

No sorry not had my night spoilt by anyone with a camera

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:24 pm

less catwalk vibes, more dancing.

letitia · Post by **letitia** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:37 pm

was same thing last year, i remember infinite wasnt allowed to take photos but i think its something the end always do not fwd in general (not 100% on that tho)
on other hand glad no-one tok any photos of me on fri, lack of cigarettes makes gives me a wild look in my eyes!!

No cameras tonight at FWD>>/RINSE @ The End

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