The Sub/Low-Mid Range Bass Thread

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:26 am

theres cheap busses that go from New York to Boston for like $5 but they have a track record of catching on fire

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:51 am

lolwut. 4 hour drive? worth it.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:52 am

dubunked wrote:lolwut. 4 hour drive? worth it.

not on a wednesday night when the night starts at 10

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:55 am

what do you mean? last time was a saturday. and so is the next one (march 1st)

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:04 am

was talking more generally that the only nights are really in nyc and theyre a haul

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:19 am

Soundcloud

For this one I used massive. Layered:
Sine wave
Gentle Speech
Gentle Speech +1 oct

Split into three bands
Mid band: saturation, chorus, phaser, reverb
high band: Saturation, flanger, reverb
Filtered the bands post-effects

Loaded into sampler
LFO, slow envelope on LP filter

sine143 · Post by **sine143** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:50 am

ehbrums1 wrote:was talking more generally that the only nights are really in nyc and theyre a haul

Lol... I've driven from North carolina for Reconstrvct, and events in baltimore/dc (thats 13 hours for reconstrvct).

As a side note, is anyone else haveing trouble viewing youtube/soundcloud links in the forum? all I get are large blank spots.

kaili · Post by **kaili** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:02 am

check my post on here and try help me out m8s
http://www.dubstepforum.com/forum/viewt ... 4#p3553854

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:45 am

I still can't quite get this bass under my belt:

[+] Spoiler

I feel like I could really take my productions to the next level if I could master this bass. I think the main problem is not knowing what type of waveform to use. Sine doesn't have enough harmonics, square has too many. Saw and triangle just sound wrong. It also sounds like there's some enveloping/movement in the bass (especially in Mud VIP) that I can't quite get down right.

Here is my best shot at it. I used the drum pattern from the Loefah tune just to put it in context, but I only want to figure the bass out. It just sounds weak and feels like it doesn't have enough harmonics but if I add ANY harmonics or open the filter even a tiny bit, it sounds like waaaaaay too much midrange.

https://soundcloud.com/the-surgeon-2/mud-vip-bass

Also if anyone's just interested in how I did what I got so far in the soundcloud clip, here's a picture for yall (lol at loefah tune clipping):

http://postimg.org/image/92ot9z06r/

Sine wave from Sylenth -> LP filter -> volume LFO -> EQ -> different types of distortion/compression -> more lowpassing & subtractive high shelf

Hashkey · Post by **Hashkey** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:53 am

I'm gonna try replicate the sound. Will give you updates let's see with what I come up.
There are various sounds on that track could you be more precise?

meanwhile I tried replicating loofah's mud.
Soundcloud

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:02 am

In Mud VIP? If you listen to the track and then my soundcloud clip you will see what sound I'm after cause the rhythm and everything is the same. That's why I put the drum beat in there to give it the context. You will see. But it's the wobbly sub/low-mid bass that goes "wuh wuh wuh wuh.... wuh wuh wuh wuh"

In Kromestar tune it's the wobbly sub/low-mid again.

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:46 am

Search for these terms with poster name Serox, in production.

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Didn't krome use 3xosc?

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Out of town, remind me in a coupla days.

Hashkey · Post by **Hashkey** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:26 am

There you go -> LOEFAH.
Soundcloud

When I click on the track says it's not available. Strange

SunkLo · Post by **SunkLo** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:15 am

Just automate a sine's volume into a saturator, or automate the drive of the saturator itself. And/or automate a lowpass filter.

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:19 am

Ahh my bad I forgot about sharing private SC links:

https://soundcloud.com/the-surgeon-2/mu ... ss/s-M3wCR

Lol at how similar ours sound

SunkLo wrote:Just automate a sine's volume into a saturator, or automate the drive of the saturator itself. And/or automate a lowpass filter.

yeah that's pretty much what I did, maybe i'm just overthinking this way too much. hashkey's sounds pretty similar to mine and he's pretty happy with it. it actually sounds like it has less mids but i feel like i'm missing part of the mids or some kind of enveloping/movement. Maybe a little vocaly even? maybe i'm just never happy with what I make for whatever reason. although nice tip on automating the saturation amount I didn't think of that. you can LFO the distortion amount in sylenth, i'll try that.

Also maybe the mids will come out more in the mastering process. It just sounds unattainable for some reason. Really bothering me.

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:32 am

Also I think NWJ is referring to this post:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/forum/viewt ... c#p1809178

If you click on the link you can see "Loefah - M..." The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement. DubstepTunez I bet. He had a lot of the Loefah classics...

C'mon what other loefah tune begins with M???

Besides Midnight

Hashkey · Post by **Hashkey** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:38 am

dubunked wrote:Ahh my bad I forgot about sharing private SC links:

https://soundcloud.com/the-surgeon-2/mu ... ss/s-M3wCR

Lol at how similar ours sound

Too bad a lot of people on the sound design got away from this kind of stuff. From the posts I read it was big in 2011

By the Way I used in Massive Just an OSC with Sine/Square Exactly in the middle, And LFO on the filter lowpass,some dimension expander Thats All. Processing: scooped out some 500 and added a FF saturn Basic Saturator, Then Echo Boy with 1/16th note on SpaceEcho setting, almost fully saturated.

SunkLo wrote:Just automate a sine's volume into a saturator, or automate the drive of the saturator itself. And/or automate a lowpass filter.

yeah that's pretty much what I did, maybe i'm just overthinking this way too much. hashkey's sounds pretty similar to mine and he's pretty happy with it. it actually sounds like it has less mids but i feel like i'm missing part of the mids or some kind of enveloping/movement. maybe i'm just never happy with what I make for whatever reason. although nice tip on automating the saturation amount I didn't think of that. you can LFO the distortion amount in sylenth, i'll try that.[/quote]

The problem I have very often too is over think these kind of sounds when in reality they are pretty simple Sine/square/saws XD.
Have you ever lost hours just messing with WT and ending up with...nothing?
Will try automating the saturator and volume, tomorrow I'll post the results ! need some sleep, nice tip.

Hashkey · Post by **Hashkey** » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:04 pm

Hey Dub I think I nailed a kind of mid range bass I heard in a youngsta track.
And Some kind of biome reese.

Soundcloud

titchbit · Post by **titchbit** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:56 am

nice dude, nerve gas?

you should post a little tutorial or a screenshot or something. would love to see how you made it!

forbidden · Post by **forbidden** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:00 am

Hashkey wrote:There you go -> LOEFAH.
Soundcloud

When I click on the track says it's not available. Strange

the sub sound has verb on it as well i believe but this is a good attempt. also the vocal sample needs to be more wet w/reverb and not as long.

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