Whats your view about all things scene related???

[shonky]

my view is that the majority of the beats are generally deadout and practically identical.

Agreed. It's like James Brown never happened and I find myself listening to impossibly slow marching music.

[shonky]

If you think dubstep is good music, listen to it, support it, produce it, play it.
If you dont like it and you think it follows a boring formula which doesnt interest you, fuck off.

Some dubstep is good music. Some dubstep is boring and formulaic. I'll support the good and not bother with the shit.

Surely no-one's that undiscerning to think that all dubstep is amazing?

[slothrop]

To be honest it's usually the tunes that are completely off the wall and unexpected that really make the evening - seems pretty sheeplike to only respond to tunes once everyone else has decided it's ok.

I suspect that a lot of the people who will only respond to tunes (or to sounds) once everyone else has decided it's ok are the same ones who'll only respond to genres or scenes once everyone's decided it's okay. The people who hear dubstep initially sounding like nothing else and immediately think "bugger me, this is exciting" are probably going to continue to get excited by new things, people who take a while to get used to the whole scene are going to take a while to get used to individual tunes or sounds, so they aren't going to go mental when DJ's drop really off the wall tunes.

I'm not saying everyone getting into the scene later has dull taste or omg we should keep dubstep underground and make sure we don't tell anyone, it's more that we shouldn't be surprised that as more people get into it, a lot of them will want to hear a more specific sound. And yeah, at some point the people who want Crazy! New! Stuff! are probably going to follow a particular strand of dubstep or go off and find something else new. And so it will continue.

[harlesden]

When dubstep becomes 8 DJs at a night all playing the same type of tune continuously, it will be fucked.

fwd at the end a couple of months ago anybody?

haven't been to a dubstep night since

tis a shame

used to go most weeks

[kirk]

Firstly i want to say that this thread is needed,too many people sit on this forum cussing each other and its fukin pissing me off.

My views on the scene..
Its defonatly changed from say 06.I feel that in a way its become a trendy kind of thing now that everyone wants to be part of,even if they were slating it a year ago.Before people liked it because the sound blew them away but now i feel that there a lot of people who just like it because its got the tag dubstep attached to it.
Im saying this judging by certain things said on this forum mainly and of course personal experience.I also feel on the production side of things that people like to hear formulas,as long as ur doing the same upfront wobble as any other big tune your the next best thing.Ive heard countless ripoffs and clones(not mentioning any names)and the people doing this seem to be getting a lot more love than the originaters.

Before everyone had a style and it made things interesting but now days theres so many people on the same kinda thing that fans are even starting to call upbeat tunes "jump up".This is bollocks!

I just dont want this music to go the same way as dnb and just follow formulas,it isnt the one.

Big up everyone who is doing something true to themselves and not biting,you know who you are.And large up all the true steppers.

[ufo over easy]

I think a lot of newish producers have really come into their own in the last six months. 2008 will be crucial.

[ozols man]

i feel wot neil buchanan is saying about the jump on it thing. i know a certain chap who accused me of making up a genre when i was tryng to tell him bout dubstep about 6 months ago. now, my man has gone to argos and bought himself the essential dubstep pipe and slippers.

[kirk]

i feel wot neil buchanan is saying about the jump on it thing. i know a certain chap who accused me of making up a genre when i was tryng to tell him bout dubstep about 6 months ago. now, my man has gone to argos and bought himself the essential dubstep pipe and slippers.

My point exactly

[sully_shanks]

If you think dubstep is good music, listen to it, support it, produce it, play it.
If you dont like it and you think it follows a boring formula which doesnt interest you, fuck off.

Some dubstep is good music. Some dubstep is boring and formulaic. I'll support the good and not bother with the shit.

Surely no-one's that undiscerning to think that all dubstep is amazing?

it kinda felt like it all was a few yrs back, but theres so much i feel today that i wouldnt have heard back then so its all good...

[chunkie]

Some dubstep is good music. Some dubstep is boring and formulaic. I'll support the good and not bother with the shit.

exactly

fact being that (unfortunately) there is a lot of poor produce but i don't need to support it just because 'its dubstep'

dubstep (like other genres before it) appeals to a large cross-section of the community and you'll see it at any night up and down the country...
i was at the island noise launch and there were 18yr old students, 20 to 30 yr olds and a few over 40s too

i like to be excited my music and hear experimentation and innovation, but by the same token there will be some who just want mad-wobble and others who want halfstep laced dub action

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

[shonky]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

[ozols man]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

either that or all these experimentalists will be signed to ninja and invited over to aphex twins for tea and mushrooms on a weekly basis

[shonky]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

either that or all these experimentalists will be signed to ninja and invited over to aphex twins for tea and mushrooms on a weekly basis

An incentive if ever I heard one.

[*grand*]

Now there has always been upbeat tunes indubstep.. lol those crowd pleasers.. Now a few years ago when i would play such tunes to my mates and females, i would get: " thats wace" and iwish i had an emoticon some cut/rolling eyes. now it hasn't really changed same producers doing what they do nothing to radical since 2003..that i think anyway.. if anythink i think it was the early 200-2002 that was the most radical period which spwaned all this crap. so why are people getting into it now? why has it become trendy, what is it that these folk are after that they can't get from funky house or what they don't get in some othr music genre? for me i love the way how certain tunes make me feel.. its all about the Zone get me? And i know its about that for alot of other individuals, so how do we convey that message to people who only care for "up beat and when dj's only tend to play "up beat" as it gets the crowd going.. how do we convey to the new comers the finer side of this movement...?

[*grand*]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

how dowe stop that from happening.. (sub fm?)

[kirk]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

how dowe stop that from happening.. (sub fm?)

Im not sure we can directly stop it from happening.I personally would be completly pissed off if all the experimentalists got pushed out and all that was left was the follow the crowd producers.

On the other hand theres always gna be people who know what good and original music is,so this alone could stop this from happenin.

The people who just follow the bandwagon dnt really know about dubstep to be honest.

[*grand*]

other than 2 replies this has been a male affair, what are females.. which i know there are quite a few in the dubstep movement generally not really fussed about this movement ? whats your opinion on the matter at hand... step fwd and be counted!

[*grand*]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

how dowe stop that from happening.. (sub fm?)

Im not sure we can directly stop it from happening.I personally would be completly pissed off if all the experimentalists got pushed out and all that was left was the follow the crowd producers.

On the other hand theres always gna be people who know what good and original music is,so this alone could stop this from happenin.

The people who just follow the bandwagon dnt really know about dubstep to be honest.

i try to educate.. hold tight everyone that knows... but surely there is going to be a point, that i think has already been crossed, when the old guard are swamped by the influx of new comers how many heads have stop going to FWd for example. No longer are cadburries chocolates, the only chocolate bars in the sweet shop...

some Dub-ecation in order me thinks.. ?

[u dub]

worst comes to worst the experimentalists get pushed out of the scene and there will be a new 'genre' or 'scene' that develops

I think this is going to happen sooner than we think.

how dowe stop that from happening.. (sub fm?)

Move to Amsterdam, we have no worries here.

[theonelikepaul]

how long do you think dubstep becomes some different thing all together

Personally I see DS as only a single point within a continually evolving structure.. like one branch of a mandlebrot set..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set

Were talking about an artform here, once something has been laid down and recorded theres nowhere else to go but try something else.

Artistically, if you want, you can remain at any point within the structure. E.G. I could still be writing music with an Amen sample and an 808 kick...
I'm sure theres still a market for that... (remarc etc)...

I think were already at a multiple crossroads point, there are many styles within the greater DS 'catergory', and each will be pursued by those individuals who love them...

My 2p, big up grand. peace.