DnB Artists that Make Dubstep

[thief]

Look at the first Dubstep tunes that came out 4-5 years ago->you can not tell me this isn't the most boring sound of dubstep to date.

Yeah I'd strongly disagree with this also.

Horses for courses tho.

[seckle]

yeah thats right, anyone with a strong opinion is a fucking elitist, right? jokeeeeess. the moment you start trying to contextualize music, people lose it. if we can't discuss music in a context compared to other music, then its not elitism its stupidity.

140bpm and 170bpm are very different feels, and very different spacially. this is why amen has that switch up feel at 170, but sounds like breaks at 140. trying to suggest people up the tempo to 170, just because dnb is 170 is a bit much.

it's not all drum and bass just because its influenced by drum and bass.

[seckle]

let's not try and bring sand to the beach.

This is exactly what they do in Wellington... it's a bit strange and sort of dirty to be honest.

really?

[syhr]

drum & bass is, for the most part, creatively dead.

i guess that's why so many producers are jumping ship to dubstep, it gives them a whole new canvas to work on.

i just hope they don't bring the over-produced, ultra-loud attitude with them.

or the average d&b raver type.

[concept]

Syhr.

I completely disagree, but can't be bothered to get into this discussion again.

Needless to say the way people dismiss d&b as a spent force is a tad irritating. And I really don't believe you've dug deep enough to comment on this, particularly as you lump all producers from this genre into the over-produced, ultra-loud category.

[upreal]

I agree that the discussion about dnb dying is as old as this forum and should not be encouraged in any way.

[syhr]

Syhr.

I completely disagree, but can't be bothered to get into this discussion again.

Needless to say the way people dismiss d&b as a spent force is a tad irritating. And I really don't believe you've dug deep enough to comment on this, particularly as you lump all producers from this genre into the over-produced, ultra-loud category.

fair enough, although i was purely a d&b head from 1996/7-ish until about a year ago. no offence like but as you don't know me you have no idea how deep i've dug mate. trust me, i've tried to hang on to the shreds of worthwhile d&b for some time but it's too disheartening lately.

there's still good stuff out there from the likes of Macc, Instra:mental, Blocks and a few others but for the most part all i hear is identikit Neuro-squelch and subfocus ripoffs with little or no soul

[techdub]

Some dnb raves have attitudes, breakin and 1nation for example.

I have never had any problems or felt worried at dnb nights in London or Nottingham.

Second jump-up can be samey (and the stuff by caspa/rusko and other wobble tunes in this genre are so different from eachother? Not hating on those tunes, just pointing it out), but producers are still doing different things and making good tunes, check the metalheadz podcasts for an example of that, or some liquid tunes about like 7 black notes.

Also you've been into it since 96, it may be that dnb is not dead (every year as some people say ) but you are bored.

Someone could as easily go to dubstep nights, listen to some mixes and podcasts and after a while be thinking it is all boring midrange wobble which lacks any creativity.

[syhr]

i'm not sure i can be bothered to carry on trying to justify an opinion, but i said 'creatively' dead - and not the entire genre at that. d&b suffers more than a lot of genres for recycling the same ideas and not taking enough outside influences. IMO. And like i said, there are exceptions, but only when you dig for them - it's not a sign of a healthy genre to have to try so hard to find the good stuff.

if you think i'm just talking about 'big rave' anthems and jump up tunes, you are wrong, so the comparison with mid range wobble dubstep etc is a bit off the mark.

again, i'll say there are still people making some excellent d&b, but they are few and far between in my opinion.

[concept]

Ok, fair maybe I jumped to conclusions there. Regardless, I have to dig equally as deep for decent dubstep these days. What that says about the creativity of the scene there I'm not sure.

I don't mind looking though as long as there's good stuff to be found!

[Sarrisun]

i've never got the dig deep theory.

all tunes coming out are on chemical / red eye every week.

it doesn't take long to check them out.

they are there at a click of a button and you can check all the new releases in about 5 minutes, if that

[sines]

just please: no dnb attitudes in dubstep.

I'll merk ya bluuuuuuuuuud

[rekordah]

Suv - www.myspace.com/triberecordings

Ahem.

[promo]

Drum n Bass is boring. Chase & Status are boring. Last time I went to some drum n bass night well lets just say it was booooooooooooooring with a capital ber. Boom cha boom cha for the hold bloody night. Same old boring rhythm for 3 hrs straight. Oh did I say it was boring.

You missed the boat m8. Drum & Bass has been a big source of inspiration for how people approach Dubstep, especially from a production standpoint. Watch the Computer Music Rusko video and count how many times he references how DnB producers do things.

Nah, I didn't miss the boat. I've been listening to every type of electronic music (as well as other stuff) since pretty much 94'. I've listened to a shit load of drum n bass over the years. But as I say its boring that's why I went on to listen to breakcore etc and jungle/ragga jungle as its far more exciting. I do like a lot of drum n bass but mostly I find it boring now as its all been done before. Drum n Bass with the same lame rhythm played for a whole night to me is punishment. 15 years ago it was exciting and I was excited when I use to listen to Grooverider etc on Kiss or Peely on the Beeb but now its just samo samo. Give me a mix with different vibes and throw in a drum n bass tune well that's fine but a whole night - no thanks. Things have to move on.

[alexchuck]

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