Am I the only one who hates wobble?

feral witchchild · Post by **feral witchchild** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:30 am

Let people do what they want with their own music, I'm not too into wobble-heavy stuff myself (though there is a LOT of good shit out there that could easily be described as such - would you call DMZ's tunes mindless wobblers?) but I respect producers and listeners' rights to be into that sound.

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:42 am

this thread is pure win with all of the Curb Your Enthusiasm references!

I have nothing useful to contribute other than that.

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:44 am

BEN? wrote:well tbh, curb is only pretty, pretty good

all about the conchords!

notch · Post by **notch** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:32 am

contakt321 wrote:this thread is pure win with all of the Curb Your Enthusiasm references!

I have nothing useful to contribute other than that.

I disagree.. this thread=FAIL

phosphor · Post by **phosphor** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:56 am

notch wrote:
Phosphor wrote:It seems that 95% or more of modern dubstep is just wobbly garbage.

The only dance music I listened too for the longest time was D&B. I had heard dubstep several times and each time I heard it, it was the wobble shit. So I tossed it aside and stuck to D&B.

Then I heard this mix a few weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-elsip ... annel_page

I was instantly blown away and now I'm a huge fan of this stuff. Upon further investigation, I found more of this sound (deep, intelligent, no fucking wobble).

Having to weed through all the garbage to get to the good shit is a pain in the arse.

So I ask... Why the fuck is everyone so goddamn fascinated with wobble? Don't you guys ever get sick of it?
Stop making San Diego look bad...95% of drum and bass is garbage..

Of course 95% of D&B is garbage. But that has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

How the fuck am I making San Diego look bad? Are you that thick?

phosphor · Post by **phosphor** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:00 am

justrob wrote:why do you care? why put effort into hating? there's tons of different kinds of dubstep, if you don't like what everone else is listening to find what you want to listen to and put effort into promoting that.

I'm not hating. I'm simply asking what this fascination is with wobble and how in the fuck people aren't bored out of their minds listening to that shit over and over again.

phosphor · Post by **phosphor** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:02 am

Feral Witchchild wrote:Let people do what they want with their own music, I'm not too into wobble-heavy stuff myself (though there is a LOT of good shit out there that could easily be described as such - would you call DMZ's tunes mindless wobblers?) but I respect producers and listeners' rights to be into that sound.

I'm not stopping anybody from doing anything. Just discussing this boring sound and the fascination behind it.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:03 am

Phosphor wrote:
justrob wrote:why do you care? why put effort into hating? there's tons of different kinds of dubstep, if you don't like what everone else is listening to find what you want to listen to and put effort into promoting that.
I'm not hating. I'm simply asking what this fascination is with wobble and how in the fuck people aren't bored out of their minds listening to that shit over and over again.

it's called personal taste

phosphor · Post by **phosphor** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:04 am

notch wrote:
Phosphor wrote:It seems that 95% or more of modern dubstep is just wobbly garbage.

The only dance music I listened too for the longest time was D&B. I had heard dubstep several times and each time I heard it, it was the wobble shit. So I tossed it aside and stuck to D&B.

Then I heard this mix a few weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-elsip ... annel_page

I was instantly blown away and now I'm a huge fan of this stuff. Upon further investigation, I found more of this sound (deep, intelligent, no fucking wobble).

Having to weed through all the garbage to get to the good shit is a pain in the arse.

So I ask... Why the fuck is everyone so goddamn fascinated with wobble? Don't you guys ever get sick of it?
YOU obviously have never been to a smog or a pure filth party and heard dubstep on a major system.. Or else you would not come to Dubstep forum and talk trash about the most exciting genre to hit the electronic music scene ever..Go to a real dubstep party... Don't post stupid shit like this in the production forum on a DUBSTEP website...

How does listening to the same stuff Louder make it any more interesting?

q_steppa · Post by **q_steppa** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:12 am

i wouldnt say 95%, there is alot of non wobble dubstep. id say like 55-65% is wobbly. i like both equally as much. different style for differrent moods. thats why dubstep is so good, can suit any mood. any weather, any emotions. all made better by dubstep

phosphor · Post by **phosphor** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:52 am

q_steppa wrote:i wouldnt say 95%, there is alot of non wobble dubstep. id say like 55-65% is wobbly. i like both equally as much. different style for differrent moods. thats why dubstep is so good, can suit any mood. any weather, any emotions. all made better by dubstep

well, that was just a quick slightly exaggerated assumption to get my point across.

q_steppa · Post by **q_steppa** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:02 am

Phosphor wrote:
notch wrote:
Phosphor wrote:It seems that 95% or more of modern dubstep is just wobbly garbage.

The only dance music I listened too for the longest time was D&B. I had heard dubstep several times and each time I heard it, it was the wobble shit. So I tossed it aside and stuck to D&B.

Then I heard this mix a few weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-elsip ... annel_page

I was instantly blown away and now I'm a huge fan of this stuff. Upon further investigation, I found more of this sound (deep, intelligent, no fucking wobble).

Having to weed through all the garbage to get to the good shit is a pain in the arse.

So I ask... Why the fuck is everyone so goddamn fascinated with wobble? Don't you guys ever get sick of it?
YOU obviously have never been to a smog or a pure filth party and heard dubstep on a major system.. Or else you would not come to Dubstep forum and talk trash about the most exciting genre to hit the electronic music scene ever..Go to a real dubstep party... Don't post stupid shit like this in the production forum on a DUBSTEP website...
How does listening to the same stuff Louder make it any more interesting?

bassweight.

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:32 am

Phosphor wrote:
ok. Dubstep to me is anything at around 140 bpm with broken beats.

HUH?
So what do you call real Electro and Breakbeat?

A lot of that was made with the 808 kick so it has loads of sub and has a broken beat.

Stuff like this that was made in 1983, is this Dubstep to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VQhBGbU6vM

or a bit later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8egR8xtzvcU

q_steppa · Post by **q_steppa** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:43 am

its just a vibe innit

phosphor · Post by **phosphor** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:19 am

Serox wrote:
Phosphor wrote:
ok. Dubstep to me is anything at around 140 bpm with broken beats.
HUH?
So what do you call real Electro and Breakbeat?

A lot of that was made with the 808 kick so it has loads of sub and has a broken beat.

Stuff like this that was made in 1983, is this Dubstep to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VQhBGbU6vM

or a bit later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8egR8xtzvcU

piss off?

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:47 am

HEHE

You cannot say 140bpm + broken beat = Dusbtep because that is clearly not the case.

lojik · Post by **lojik** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:23 am

Phosphor wrote:
notch wrote:
Phosphor wrote:It seems that 95% or more of modern dubstep is just wobbly garbage.

The only dance music I listened too for the longest time was D&B. I had heard dubstep several times and each time I heard it, it was the wobble shit. So I tossed it aside and stuck to D&B.

Then I heard this mix a few weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-elsip ... annel_page

I was instantly blown away and now I'm a huge fan of this stuff. Upon further investigation, I found more of this sound (deep, intelligent, no fucking wobble).

Having to weed through all the garbage to get to the good shit is a pain in the arse.

So I ask... Why the fuck is everyone so goddamn fascinated with wobble? Don't you guys ever get sick of it?
YOU obviously have never been to a smog or a pure filth party and heard dubstep on a major system.. Or else you would not come to Dubstep forum and talk trash about the most exciting genre to hit the electronic music scene ever..Go to a real dubstep party... Don't post stupid shit like this in the production forum on a DUBSTEP website...
How does listening to the same stuff Louder make it any more interesting?

If you've never heard 'wobbly' dubstep live in a club then no wonder you'd prefer minimal.

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:32 am

q_steppa wrote:its just a vibe innit

It's a scene. Or maybe a bunch of scenes there days.

Trying to pin down dance music 'genres' by doing some sort of context free musical analysis and pinning down the musical features on paper is pretty much doomed to fail. To me the distinction is as much about the people, the places, the culture, the vibe and so on than some unchanging set of well-defined musicalogical characteristics.

Although obviously there's a lot of grey areas there too.

drwurst · Post by **drwurst** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:38 am

ok he didnt ask how to do it...
but please...no ham? no paks?

Coppola · Post by **Coppola** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:47 am

FSTZ wrote:
HAHA!!!

FAV EPISODE EVER!

My favourite episode is beloved aunt

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