Dub step VS Drum and Bass

r · Post by r » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T-FrsE12E4

the most pure form of music imo. Straight from the hearth. u can hear it

jsilver · Post by **jsilver** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:14 pm

dubstep 2

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:19 pm

Boring

pidge · Post by **pidge** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:53 pm

Genevieve wrote: And raggacore is an amazing update to ragga-jungle, I actually generally prefer raggacore... So fiends who like the ragga-jungle thang and miss it should get wit' it

word. Death$ucker is sick, Bristol heads know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7QZICKUHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMd-pLlUrao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyx6cXoTOAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0BRmZ-Bom8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE6Q6tivtXs

blaztik · Post by **blaztik** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:51 am

notch wrote:... dubstep is not supposed to be "pretty", its filth son...

notch wrote:... Dubstep is the new sheriff in town..

magma · Post by **magma** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:45 pm

pidge wrote:
Genevieve wrote: And raggacore is an amazing update to ragga-jungle, I actually generally prefer raggacore... So fiends who like the ragga-jungle thang and miss it should get wit' it
word. Death$ucker is sick, Bristol heads know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7QZICKUHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMd-pLlUrao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyx6cXoTOAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0BRmZ-Bom8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE6Q6tivtXs

Yeeeesss..! GOATLAB BASHOUT CREEEEW!

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:35 pm

what's the Alpaca Love mix then?

mondays child · Post by **mondays child** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:58 pm

I liked it when guys like Photek and Source Direct did all their break edits by hand, the approach showed in the attention to detail, and it's something i try to do, rather than use loops and stuff. That's what gave them the edge, Rob Playford was another geezer who did that as well, he did a lot of the co-production on Goldie's 'Timeless' there is some reall,y good drum and bass still being made, Metalheadz still put out amazing stuff, and although some of it can be quite dark and gritty, you can still feel the soul in there. Thats the most important thing for me, does it have soul? i reckon both drum and bass and dubstep have both in spades.

long live them bothg, why does one have to be better than the other, it's all music at the end of the day innit.

rob sparx · Post by **rob sparx** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:36 pm

disma wrote:Hey all, i've been producing drum and bass aswell as dub step for a couple of years now. And it seems alot more effort is put in to get a good drum and bass sound... rather than a dubstep tune...

I think this rings true in the stuff we hear today. The good stuff coming out of drum and bass today is sooo rich in production quality, and i'm yet to be convinced and dub producers have come close to creating sounds as good as the ones i've heard in d'n'b productions (e.g. Spor - Valentine.. Noisia - Exodus, The panacea - cryptonomicon... pendulum..)

Can someone convince me otherwise?

Feel free to flame

Good production is great but you can't polish a turd can you? Too much DNB these days is actually pop music I couldn't give a fuk how good the production is!

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:04 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:what's the Alpaca Love mix then?

You don't know?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:06 pm

see if we had a mod here we could have moved this over to the subforum it belongs on

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:08 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:see if we had a mod here we could have moved this over to the subforum it belongs on

Fuck a mod anyway, we don't need their type in here imo.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:38 pm

abZ wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:see if we had a mod here we could have moved this over to the subforum it belongs on
Fuck a mod anyway, we don't need their type in here imo.

We don't take kindly to moderators around here.

jedison · Post by **jedison** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:48 pm

Someone probably said it already, but I think the big difference why it can take more effort to produce a good DnB tune is due to the drums and speed eating up headroom. When you do Dubstep it feels like you can do whatever crazy shit you want and still have space in the mixdown to get some dancefloor rudeness. I personally think DnB as of right now has a bit more quality control in what gets released, but that's not really a statement as to which is better, both are good, but I prefer the energy of DnB a bit more.

botched · Post by **botched** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:57 pm

Drum N Bass Vs Dubstep!!!!!!!!! Youre all Gay

freqone · Post by **freqone** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:49 am

disma wrote:Hey all, i've been producing drum and bass aswell as dub step for a couple of years now. And it seems alot more effort is put in to get a good drum and bass sound... rather than a dubstep tune...

I think this rings true in the stuff we hear today. The good stuff coming out of drum and bass today is sooo rich in production quality, and i'm yet to be convinced and dub producers have come close to creating sounds as good as the ones i've heard in d'n'b productions (e.g. Spor - Valentine.. Noisia - Exodus, The panacea - cryptonomicon... pendulum..)

Can someone convince me otherwise?

Feel free to flame

why do you need this to be true? i dont get it

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:07 pm

I kind of feel like the production values thing in a lot of DnB has turned into a bit of an arms race - people spend days resampling basslines and EQing snares, not because it makes the music much more interesting to listen to but because if they don't then they'll sound weak in comparison to everyone else. The production might be a lot more advanced and sophisticated now than it was 15 years ago, but someone hearing new dnb now doesn't find it much more exciting sounding than someone hearing Photek or Dillinja in '94 found that.

It seems like in modern dnb the tactical neccessity of putting in loads of effort into fairly boring messing around with sounds and EQs and compressors and following seventeen step tutorials on engineering your drum sounds just to keep up with everyone else kind of hampers the scope for creativity and innovation. Dubstep may not sound as polished but at the moment it seems more open ended and varied, and to me that makes for a much better night out than loads of tunes that I find a bit predictable.

macc · Post by **macc** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:46 pm

Slothrop wrote:I kind of feel like the production values thing in a lot of DnB has turned into a bit of an arms race - people spend days resampling basslines and EQing snares, not because it makes the music much more interesting to listen to but because if they don't then they'll sound weak in comparison to everyone else.

The irony is that VERY often all that processing makes things sound weaker. I mean, veyr VERY often

(how you doing Slothrop btw?

)

arawanadi · Post by **arawanadi** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:07 pm

Yeah, i feel the same about this. With Noisia, Spor and so it sounds more like Rammstein than the D and B i like

Its like the resample the soul out of it and in the end they all sound the same, a strange way Drum and Bass had chosen there.

ben freeman · Post by **ben freeman** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:40 pm

Disma... WTF? I moved into the dubstep genre because when I actually heard it on a loud system, it absolutely floored me, I thought the production value was top notch and VERY forward thinking. I have been listening and playing drum and bass since 97' and it is nonsense to say that the production quality is better...there are good producers in every genre. There are SOOOOOOO many absolutely TERRIBLE drum and bass tunes out there (especially these days) and SOOOOOOO many totally fresh dubstep tunes...hell even the up and comer producers in dubstep are making amazing stuff, I cannot say the same for drum and bass. Now I still love dnb, but I always have to search the net for hours to find good dnb, and I search for 3 minutes and find 5 dope tunes in dubstep. That has to be saying something.

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