Toooo many Un-original "producers" in dubstep

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Wed May 06, 2009 10:52 am

deamonds wrote:say who you are then init, cause people dont just send there dubs to the voice of reason do they..?

you have obviously got 2222 many people sending you tunes, so if you man up & say who you are perhaps they wont send so many...?

full metal inc · Post by **full metal inc** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:16 pm

big up deamonds on everything
straight truth.
this thread was obviously started by someone on too much something.

there can never ever be too much music

its what is called freedom of expression you negative arrogant bastard.

bin this shit thread.

dj nation · Post by **dj nation** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:40 pm

personally mate, i cant really say much cause i havent been producing that long but ive started getting on nights, but if ppl wanna produce thats up to them really isnt it. i mean like you said if record labels dont like them then no harm done. but if a recod label finds a gem in these thousands of producers isnt that a good thing. all it means is there is much more competition, which im guessing will get ppls serious thinkin caps on and dubstep progressing to next lvls.

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:51 pm

You can't blame people making tunes for sending them to record labels in the hope of getting them heard. Most of them won't be very good but that's nothing to worry about. As long as the respected labels and DJs have taste and quality control it doesn't hurt the scene at all.

People who run labels shouldn't complain about getting sent too many tracks by too many different people. I used to be a gig promoter / zine writer in my spare time and I've listened to more terrible bands than I've had hot dinners but that goes with the territory.

When you set yourself up as a record label you're basically volunteering to wade through the shit so the rest of us don't have to.

fairieswearboots · Post by **fairieswearboots** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:54 pm

I agree that there are too many clones, which doesnt push the sound forward but in a way its to be expected as the music grows,
any new electronic music these days is going to be similar -
mass communiaction on message boards and the ease with which music can be produced on FL etc

I agree with what Silkie said, "dont listen to dubstep for your influences'

V-O-R you do have a holier-than-thou attitude on some of your posts

aleks zen · Post by **aleks zen** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:56 pm

FairiesWearBoots wrote: I agree with what Silkie said, "dont listen to dubstep for your influences'

real talk

frodo · Post by **frodo** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:00 pm

It's like this in every single scene, not only dubstep.

15mil · Post by **15mil** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:30 pm

DID wrote:I personally think that new music should be banned completely. And so should enjoying something if you're not naturally talented at it.

filthy digital · Post by **filthy digital** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:45 pm

Filthy Digital wrote:
soundbwoy wrote:yo there's too many man, too many many man
too many man, too many many man

it's loads worse than 12yr old grime producers anyway, 12yr old grime producers don't set up labels and perpetuate the mediocrity. Anyway, cut the brehs some slack if they're 12yr old, it's the one's who are old enough to know better who should step down!

And I play both CDJs and vinyl, I buy both digital and vinyl, but I'm not gonna pretend 90% of the shit stuff is coming out on digital labels.

I don't even need to listen to half the stuff on digital-tunes anymore; anyone else noticed the complete giveaway that is:
a) completely retarded "artist" names
b) completely retarded album titles
c) completely retarded song titles
d) completely retarded artwork

by retarded I mean either like complete scifi geek-out wankery, insertnameherestep, something "scary" or "dark", or even worse, completely unrelated adjectives like "filthy". You wot!? This is dubstep, not electro-house!!!

And for f*cks sake, most of the artwork on digital-tunes could have been made by my sister on paint. Literally. If any of you shit digital labels want to pay me Ps I will load up photoshop right now and do a better job of designing your labels "image" and promoting some sort of "integrity" or "identity".
maybe you shouldnt judge a book by its cover, i mean. i have 4 releases in the betsellers list almost all the time. that speaks for itself. who cares if u like the art or track names. if the tunes is sick, thats all that matters. or did you even bother to listen? you sound closed minded and not willing to step outside your comfort zone. maybe you feel threatened?

Take a look man. my releases are quality and yes my label is called FILTHY DIGITAL. SO WHAT!?!?!?!?

Get over yourswelf and listen before making judgment calls. I get amazing feedback constantly and sales are wonderful.

Like I said, DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY IT's COVER.

move along with the progressionof things or get left behind dog.

Also want to reitterate... As far as originallity goes, Filthy and alot of the newer labels seem to have more originall ideas and procucers behind them than alot of the long respected and old time producers, ya I said it. How can you not see this? Keepin a blinds eye and hugging your favorite DMZ/Caspa/Loefah/Etc will not help you now, new styles and subgenres are bound to emerge.

That is part of what keeps it exciting, and probably what keepf people buying and playing the new tunes all over the globe.

Not to sound dick, but this thread is WACK.

kapital · Post by **kapital** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:53 pm

Why does Fly Lo get tossed into dubstep convos nuff times. I know he's into it big....shit...his squad (namely Gaslamp) also push the sound....but I wouldn't call his music anywhere near dubstep except for the bass.

Is that what it is, the bass?

xi · Post by xi » Wed May 06, 2009 2:18 pm

lol @ this thread

music friends

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:22 pm

i hearby decree all the unique sounding non cookie cutter dubstep must be sent directly to my inbox and i shall no longer have to put forth any effort to hunt down new talent

reptilian · Post by **reptilian** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:38 pm

Filthy Digital wrote:

Also want to reitterate... As far as originallity goes, Filthy and alot of the newer labels seem to have more originall ideas and procucers behind them than alot of the long respected and old time producers, ya I said it. How can you not see this? Keepin a blinds eye and hugging your favorite DMZ/Caspa/Loefah/Etc will not help you now, new styles and subgenres are bound to emerge.

If you say so yourself..

You're deluded

The music is decent and all if thats your cup of tea but more original? Sorry but I had a listen to your stuff and I didn't hear one thing as original as just one DMZ release

soundbwoy · Post by **soundbwoy** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:49 pm

Filthy Digital wrote: Also want to reitterate... As far as originallity goes, Filthy and alot of the newer labels seem to have more originall ideas and procucers behind them than alot of the long respected and old time producers, ya I said it. How can you not see this? Keepin a blinds eye and hugging your favorite DMZ/Caspa/Loefah/Etc will not help you now, new styles and subgenres are bound to emerge.

That is part of what keeps it exciting, and probably what keepf people buying and playing the new tunes all over the globe.

Not to sound dick, but this thread is WACK.

Yo yeah, although I'm parring you for the name, I'm not parring you as a label. I've bought stuff off your label more than once, though it's not the sound I normally like to push, nor do I think it's necessarily as original as you might.. (which I guess to an extent is a taste thing, if we're gonna be all objective about it) and as far as labels on digi-tunes go, you've got a high profile. But re: your artwork, I disagree. It's not like buying a cake and it being in a brown paper bag, and complaining about the bag despite it being berr tasty. The artwork is part of the product. It's hard to describe but everything contributes, artist names, song names etc. It's the overall feel. That's why labels like Dress 2 Sweat or Wireblock have it going on; they've got a really unique identity that they stick to on all releases and it comes across in the music, every part of the package is quality, serious. Even Tempa, you may think it looks boring, but that's an identity, using the same font etc, all stripped back. It still has a lot of class. Anyway, with your sales as they are, you don't have to give a shit about anything I say

jonnyrebel · Post by **jonnyrebel** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:49 pm

there is a difference between the people that actually care about what they are doing and people who just cant be arsed to get a job and make tunes to get famous.

recognise

mondays child · Post by **mondays child** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:52 pm

Yawn.....this is getting ridiculous, this is an entirely subjective and theoretical discussion.

I have noticed a lot of this recently led by a few 'stirrers', pointless tit for tat arguments that resolve nothing and continue to further devalue a reasonably fresh scene.

It reminds me of a school playground fight between 5 year olds, or bear baiting. Someone stands back and lights the blue touch paper, then BOOOM...watch what happens.

Sadly it seems to be all to frequent in this part of the forum these days.

soundbwoy · Post by **soundbwoy** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:53 pm

subjective... but is it really
discuss

germskiller · Post by **germskiller** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:29 pm

There's alot of producers with good ideas.
But alot of these producers haven't got enough knowledge or skill to get the right sound (me included).....so they end up reusing the same shit (me not included i hope).

Dubstep would die out without all these producers, aslong as your not keeping the same sound over and over again in each one of your tracks then I'm willing to listen.

New commers should be pushed and educated when making dubstep e.g. musical influences mixed with new ideas. Research and a shit load of tutorials help me out. This is how genres grow - sorry for the dubstep 101 there.

Help them out don't just look down on them everytime. They could end up being the next big thing.

the-voice-of-reason · Post by **the-voice-of-reason** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:45 pm

Im talking about the lack of originality( deamonds tunes are a good example) among the hoards of so called producers out there , the point I'm making is that there is already a mala , loefah , coki , skream , martyn , 2562 , burial , joker and the shit carbon copy tunes get boring.

wascal · Post by **wascal** » Wed May 06, 2009 3:48 pm

Reptilian wrote:The music is decent and all if thats your cup of tea but more original? Sorry but I had a listen to your stuff and I didn't hear one thing as original as just one DMZ release

try Macabre Unit - Bacteria (Wascal mix) due out on Filthy Digital at the end of the month [/standard dsf shameless self-promo]

Toooo many Un-original "producers" in dubstep

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