And here's the problem. Some of it you can explain but then you draw inferences that aren't justified by the arguments you present for them. Just how have the Welsh FA, who've contributed significantly less to the development of Bale and Ramsey than the English clubs they've played for got this right? Just because those players are Welsh it means nothing regarding the Welsh FA's football philosophy. I'm a fan of Allen but Rodgers chooses Henderson over him all the time and Rodgers is one of the managers you consider a class act.hubb wrote:I'll point to the fact that both Wilshere and Barkley obviously doesn't have only one coach during their education.
The line going from the english national youth team is failingly concervative, english football as a whole is behind most of the other big football culture paradigmes.
Like you could see at the wc, where the english national team had to tell the press that they trained in all kind of different scenarios and temperatures etc to deal with playing in brazil. If you notice, not one of the other countries argues that way, but actually just expect them to do that.
They are objectively clutching at what matters in football and the appointment of your old coach doesn't point in another direction.
And the main reason imo - is that the number 10 playmaker that has been a part of almost every single great football team throughout history -has never been understood and brought about in this context. England has had young promising lads that could play that role in obviously different ways, given all the different types of players I suggested. But tradition will have it that the two way midfielders are prefered because fans and a lot of people involved (*) in england don't understand all of it and instead focus on putting in hardwork or tackling hard, despite it not yielding results in the context of this game we are talking about.
Which in turn usually destroy those unique talents that could have an impact with something other that is highly needed, than just running and hurting themselves.
It's a clear sign when you see that Wales has better prospects now just because they changed away from that way of playing and that sort of possession philosophy that brings about players like Bale, Ramsey or Allen that just don't look british on a pitch.
(*: Ironically apart from class acts like Rodgers that understand the importance of that role and brought in Coutinho, and took his education in another culture or context, who even considers Cavani to be an alternative to Suarez. Sterling even blew up when he was put in that central spot..etc)
But I don't understand it
I agree that England lags behind and this is in part down to the football culture at club and youth level but this isn't a factor in how Barkley plays especially under Martinez who seems a good manager. I also agree Hodgson represents conservative tendencies in the FA, he's not good enough for the job but the FA decided on the criteria and fucked themselves.