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can someone educate me

Post by mmplisskin » Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:40 am

Ok... So I have attempted to make some dubstep... I am a television composer that uses logic with komplete eastwest and other plug ins... I have not been able to ever make a decent wobbly bass that changes rates... filtering..cutoff... I have been able to make a wobble bass but it just dosent sound really strong Do most dubstep producers use abbleton or something... and do any of them use logic?


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Post by jsilver » Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:59 am

jsilver wrote:
you want the oscillators in the synth to generate bass tones for one, so you want to set your root key up c7 or c8 and play c5 until your tone hits in that bass range

a little coarse and/or fine detune in the oscillators helps for fatter sound, use your knowledge of scales to pick semitones that are in tune (major or minor) to avoid dissonance

then you want to use a low pass filter to cut the high end, giving yourself some resonance (volume of harmonics around the cutoff) for some added boom

then you want to apply an LFO to the filter cutoff, a lot of VA synths have this hardwired, you have to route it on the mod matrix in heavier synths like albino

the 'speed' parameter is going to be how fast your wobble moves up and down the bass frequency zone (automate this)

the "amount" parameter is how much modulation you want the LFO to have on the modulation parameter, can be +/- because LFOs are bipolar (range from -1 to 1)

volume envelope, filter envelope, etc to taste, monophonic mode and portamento can sound good if playing keyboard, maybe assign a knob to cutoff, reso, speed, amt, porta and record your modulations!

at this point you can go ahead and throw FX on, i find chorus is good to fatten it up stereowise, various freeware distortion can be recommended, there's a huge distortion section on gersic.com, i recommend compression also to make it stand out in the mix

hope this helps, if you have questions whatsoever you can hit me up on AIM at johnnysilv and id be glad to help
jsilver wrote:another point i wanted to make is, free your mind from the concept

LFO -> cutoff = wobble

think of this as the original wobble, only use it when you're trying to use it because it has a very distinctive sound which is the filter opening up to include more of the harmonics from the pre-filtered sound. very distinctive, youll begin to recognize it if you do start programming synths

your dubstep will be very boring if thats all you use or if you use it every time

i want you to think of wobble as a sound that retriggers X times during the course of a note, where you change X to get that classic dubstep wobble modulation sound, and where X is divisor of the beats if you want sync (perfect sounding wobbles)

you can check out synths with LFO sync modulation if you want perfect sounding wobbles also, this syncs the lfo speed to your DAW host's tempo and allows you to change the sync ratio rather than the speed (Hz, times a second etc)

keeps your wobble from getting out of time rather than regular speed modulation

you can use a sampler as well if a sample has the grit you want, what i described is only one way to do it, so experiment!

also use white noise, feedback and overdrive/distortion sparingly for more grit
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Post by lowpass » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:04 am

your a logic and an eastwest user so I'll be kind

I'm still in though

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Post by frizzwah » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:07 am

you missed the abundance of threads asking the exact same thing this week?

:roll: +++

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Post by lowpass » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:18 am

Eops wrote:
Wachs Lyrical wrote:you don't need massive, although it is good. You can use the EX2 or EX1 easily. if you are not already doing so, then try getting all the oscillators involved for a fatter sound. They don't need to be all set to different notes entirely. Try detuning the first and second to -3 and +3, while leaving the third at 0 to create a more full sound.

I use the Monophonic synth with a PSP compressor plugin for added massiveness to create the sub.

I assume that if you spent £950 on East West and are taking dubstep seriously then you can afford to buy either Massive, Predator or Albino which will all serve you well.
methinks you missed the irony/sarcasm in the previous post
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Post by jolly wailer » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:37 pm

just twist the knob dummy

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Post by pets bud » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:10 pm

jsilver wrote:
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Post by FSTZ1 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:27 pm

Jolly Wailer wrote:just twist the knob dummy

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Post by tripwire22 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:29 pm

petS buD wrote:
jsilver wrote:
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Post by caeraphym » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:48 pm

Tripwire22 wrote:
petS buD wrote:
jsilver wrote:


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