Being nice....does it matter?

nousd · Post by **nousd** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:08 am

"....'s a nice bloke"
insert Elemental, Western Synthetics, Seven, Mala or whoever

Does it matter that a producer who plays out is a good bloke?
í.e. friendly, outgoing, not up themselves.
Everyone I met earlier on made me feel, in conrast, egotistical and grumpy
but now I'm feeling relatively nice.
Has the worldwide steppa community fractionated so much
that fuckwits can act out & nobody cares?

I don't mean antics or putting on a show,
I mean being precious, greedy or big-headed.

fretn · Post by **fretn** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:13 am

can you give some examples of really unfriendly producers then....

nousd · Post by **nousd** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:19 am

good question
but I wasn't thinking about nailing anyone

more about expectations

Mr. Mittens · Post by **Mr. Mittens** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:40 am

Not to be preachy, but I believe in positivity and good manners. I'm sure I often fall short of my own aspirations, but I was raised to treat others with respect, and it's really helped me out a lot in life... I think it goes without saying that if you are a nice person, then people will be that much more willing to work with you, your music will get more exposure, etc. But more than this I think that all music has a message, intentional or not... every piece of music makes you feel a certain way, and I would rather hear tunes made by someone who feels the same way about the world as me, rather than, say, someone who enjoys punching people in the face...

You mentioned Mala- I loved his music before I ever knew anything about him, but after reading his interviews and hearing his inside out show for redbull music academy, his tunes are that much more special because they were made by such a radiant human being, whom I hope to have the pleasure of meeting some day. In contrast, I recently met an artist whose music I don't think I will ever be able to enjoy again because it will always remind me of the foul person behind it. Personality goes a long way...

fretn · Post by **fretn** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:45 am

Mittens4Kittens wrote:Not to be preachy, but I believe in positivity and good manners. I'm sure I often fall short of my own aspirations, but I was raised to treat others with respect, and it's really helped me out a lot in life... I think it goes without saying that if you are a nice person, then people will be that much more willing to work with you, your music will get more exposure, etc. But more than this I think that all music has a message, intentional or not... every piece of music makes you feel a certain way, and I would rather hear tunes made by someone who feels the same way about the world as me, rather than, say, someone who enjoys punching people in the face...

You mentioned Mala- I loved his music before I ever knew anything about him, but after reading his interviews and hearing his inside out show for redbull music academy, his tunes are that much more special because they were made by such a radiant human being, whom I hope to have the pleasure of meeting some day. In contrast, I recently met an artist whose music I don't think I will ever be able to enjoy again because it will always remind me of the foul person behind it. Personality goes a long way...

mala is like the john lennon of dubstep, ever calm, he justs has good karma in him... nothing but respect for him, his tunes are sophisticated, deep, emotional & dark a bit like burial in some aspects

dub frequency records · Post by **dub frequency records** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:51 am

I Can Think Of A Few That Should You Should Keep A Distance From Im Not The Type To Name People Like That Tho lol
But Most People Ive Met In Dub Are The Most Sound Minded People
Most Of Them My Closest Friends Now!!!

Mr. Mittens · Post by **Mr. Mittens** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:52 am

I don't know why Burial doesn't play out, but I would imagine it has something to do with wanting to avoid the ego trap that is associated with DJ'ing... I think Data really got it right with the sample on "Leaves" http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/se ... k=TEMPA044

paul updat · Post by **paul updat** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:08 am

There are a lot more dickheads in this scene than people might think.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:57 pm

Do unto others.....

menacetosobriety · Post by **menacetosobriety** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:24 pm

fretn wrote:
Mittens4Kittens wrote:Not to be preachy, but I believe in positivity and good manners. I'm sure I often fall short of my own aspirations, but I was raised to treat others with respect, and it's really helped me out a lot in life... I think it goes without saying that if you are a nice person, then people will be that much more willing to work with you, your music will get more exposure, etc. But more than this I think that all music has a message, intentional or not... every piece of music makes you feel a certain way, and I would rather hear tunes made by someone who feels the same way about the world as me, rather than, say, someone who enjoys punching people in the face...

You mentioned Mala- I loved his music before I ever knew anything about him, but after reading his interviews and hearing his inside out show for redbull music academy, his tunes are that much more special because they were made by such a radiant human being, whom I hope to have the pleasure of meeting some day. In contrast, I recently met an artist whose music I don't think I will ever be able to enjoy again because it will always remind me of the foul person behind it. Personality goes a long way...
mala is like the john lennon of dubstep, ever calm, he justs has good karma in him... nothing but respect for him, his tunes are sophisticated, deep, emotional & dark a bit like burial in some aspects

Not a good comparison given that John Lennon was actually a narcissistic c*nt

stenchman · Post by **stenchman** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:44 pm

ive not yet met anyone yet who ive thought "actually you are a twat" altho im sure ppl have thought it about me, especially when im smashed lol

dreadmc · Post by **dreadmc** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:57 pm

i think its important to be polite. as a producer/dj/mc, sometimes tho you have to understand everyone is different and people can have an offish day, i say most ppl in the scene are really cool. N like to socialise after or before a rave.

gorillabearbear · Post by **gorillabearbear** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:12 pm

generally speaking I tend to assume that people that aren't sound aren't really part of the scene anyway, but then again I've never met anyone who's big or anything so this is more about punters at raves and stuff. Always seems like the people who are really into it are really sound always and the people who aren't are the people who get the hell in my way and look moody when I'm trying to skank :p

feral witchchild · Post by **feral witchchild** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:18 pm

I like my producers the same way I like my women: cold, sullen and morose. :'|

On a serious note, though, I mean, who gives a fuck, really? Apart from if they do something to personally fuck you over or disrespect you, of course...you can't expect everyone to be nithe.

contakt321 · Post by **contakt321** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:46 pm

I also believe in "do unto others"

There is a phrase I have heard a lot in the music industry (I am sure it's used elsewhere also) which is:

"You see the same people on the way up as you do on the way down"

Implying be nice to everyone, no matter how successful you are, because you will see them again and they may be in a better position than you. I have seen this firsthand too, I have seen interns of mine go onto great success, I have seen producers and rappers who are slated to be the next big thing fall off because they burned a bridge too many or can't get their shit together.

To be honest, I am surprised anyone would ask this question. I feel like if you were raised to treat people with respect, this is second nature to you, and if you weren't raised that way, it will probably never be important.

What do I know though?

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:16 pm

contakt321 wrote:
What do I know though?

Yeah exactly, shut up contakt you burk

nah, I'm just jokin', loves ya really.

cave man · Post by **cave man** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:41 pm

It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice

hmm, but this..

Mittens4Kittens wrote:... I think it goes without saying that if you are a nice person, then people will be that much more willing to work with you, your music will get more exposure, etc. But more than this I think that all music has a message, intentional or not... every piece of music makes you feel a certain way, and I would rather hear tunes made by someone who feels the same way about the world as me, rather than, say, someone who enjoys punching people in the face...

dubplate · Post by **dubplate** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:15 pm

benga is the nicest

abs · Post by **abs** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:17 pm

after i saw that redbull academy thing with mala i thought he seemed like a nice guy, as do most of the people in dubstep, the only thing i notice is that everyone seems to take it really seriously though.. if the scene had a bit of breakcore humour things would be more entertaining.

manray · Post by **manray** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:34 pm

You dont' tend to get far in life being a tnuc.

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