Making sub bass ?

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:52 pm

What are the best methods/techniques for a real deep clean bass that doesnt take away from the tops ?

tripwire22 · Post by **tripwire22** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:55 pm

use subsonic from itchy synths makes great sub or just put sine and triangle together?

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:56 pm

Tripwire22 wrote:use subsonic from itchy synths makes great sub or just put sine and triangle together?

i got a really good badcompany sounding bass from 4 sine's but never tried mixing a triangle in ... ill def give that one a go and ill see if i can get a copy of subsonic c what its saying

lojik · Post by **lojik** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:56 pm

Sine wave = done.

If you want it to cut through better you could distort it slightly so you get some harmonics in there. It shouldn't interfere with the highs at all becuase a single sine wave in the bass register is a solid frequency right at the bottom of the scale.

If you want your bass to sound huge (Mala, early Caspa etc) just turn all the other elements down so the bass in contrast sounds louder.

EDIT: I use Albino3 and nothing else for sub bass. Even if I make mid range basses elsewhere I always cut the sub and use Albino.

manray · Post by **manray** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:00 pm

I find you can get clean sub on pretty much anything. Just a single osc sine, get the attack/release right and drive it through a limiter.

Can add a bit more character with saw type waves and a low pass.

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:00 pm

thought this might be the case ... @tripwire ... where can i get that synth from i just had a look n cant find it anywhere ?

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:02 pm

Lojik wrote:Sine wave = done.
It shouldn't interfere with the highs at all becuase a single sine wave in the bass register is a solid frequency right at the bottom of the scale.

.. i have albino

ill give it a shot

... i was always taught that if you push the bass too much you loose the tops and vice versa if you push the tops on a heavy bass you loose the bass ... suppose its all about the right balance

tripwire22 · Post by **tripwire22** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:03 pm

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... ight=itchy

manray · Post by **manray** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:05 pm

TripAddict wrote:
Lojik wrote:Sine wave = done.
It shouldn't interfere with the highs at all becuase a single sine wave in the bass register is a solid frequency right at the bottom of the scale.
.. i have albino ill give it a shot

... i was always taught that if you push the bass too much you loose the tops and vice versa if you push the tops on a heavy bass you loose the bass ... suppose its all about the right balance

Depends alot on the track as well. You will find the very bass heavy tracks tend to be quite sparse where the more busy tracks tend to not have as much low down weight.

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:11 pm

Tripwire22 wrote:http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... ight=itchy

sweet ;0)

lojik · Post by **lojik** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:21 pm

TripAddict wrote:
Lojik wrote:Sine wave = done.
It shouldn't interfere with the highs at all becuase a single sine wave in the bass register is a solid frequency right at the bottom of the scale.
.. i have albino ill give it a shot

... i was always taught that if you push the bass too much you loose the tops and vice versa if you push the tops on a heavy bass you loose the bass ... suppose its all about the right balance

You should never really push sub bass. Just mix the track so it sounds heavy. If I can help it I never compress, limit of FX the pure sub bass. With sub all you're doing is adding frequencies that you feel rather than hear and a pure sine wave has the cleanest frequencies. If you start messing with compression and limiting you can change the wave and make it not sound so clean which isn't a good idea if you're playing tracks on a big system.

vertex · Post by **vertex** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:59 pm

err, synth set to sine wave....

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:36 pm

Lojik wrote:
TripAddict wrote:
Lojik wrote:Sine wave = done.
It shouldn't interfere with the highs at all becuase a single sine wave in the bass register is a solid frequency right at the bottom of the scale.
.. i have albino ill give it a shot

... i was always taught that if you push the bass too much you loose the tops and vice versa if you push the tops on a heavy bass you loose the bass ... suppose its all about the right balance
You should never really push sub bass. Just mix the track so it sounds heavy. If I can help it I never compress, limit of FX the pure sub bass. With sub all you're doing is adding frequencies that you feel rather than hear and a pure sine wave has the cleanest frequencies. If you start messing with compression and limiting you can change the wave and make it not sound so clean which isn't a good idea if you're playing tracks on a big system.

k ill holla when i get chance to test it out

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:36 pm

Vertex wrote:err, synth set to sine wave....

er and your track would sound pants

psylent · Post by **psylent** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:07 pm

I've got in the habit of loading up a deep 808 in Kontakt and tweaking to suit.
Definetly gets the chest rattling.

vertex · Post by **vertex** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:17 pm

TripAddict wrote:
Vertex wrote:err, synth set to sine wave....
er and your track would sound pants

Sounds fine to me!

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:48 pm

Vertex wrote:
TripAddict wrote:
Vertex wrote:err, synth set to sine wave....
er and your track would sound pants
Sounds fine to me!

lol ... i wanna listen

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:54 pm

A nice sawtooth/square mix low pass filtered with a very high resonance can do the trick nicely. (Be careful not to blow ya speakers if you sweep the filter cutoof up with that high resonance...!!!)

As mentioned above, add distortion before the low pass filter so all you have is a sub with more harmonic content/variation than a pure sin/triangle bass.

808 kicks are made by using overdrive distortion/clipping on a sine wave btw...

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:25 am

sometimes I compress my sub a bit because the lower frequencies /notes volume is lower than the higher sub notes. this is still a new thing for me though and I'm open to any advice about it

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