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Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by darigan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:56 pm

I'm working on a track thats got a rim shot instead of snare. With a snare I usually layer it up to get a stronger smack out of it, what can I do with the RimShot to give more of a bang.
I've been playing with compressors and its not sounding to bad but I just ask to see if there as any other methods out there
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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by lowpass » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:59 pm

layer with a clap,tom /any other percussion sound

compress,

saturate,

distort,

eq boost in the low-mids

I'm just guessing here man, good luck with the rimshot instead of a snare, sounds really cool on older dub tracks, glad to see somebody still wanting to use it

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by mico viejo » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:02 pm

darigan wrote:With a snare I usually layer it up to get a stronger smack out of it, what can I do with the RimShot to give more of a bang.
you normally layer snares...er, why would it be any different with a rimshot? clack of a rimshot on top, meat of a snare underneath, no?

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by hurlingdervish » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:21 pm

best tip i heard from someone out there

when any sample is lacking the mid bassy whack

band pass a kick to the exact frequency you want and layer it in and turn it down until its just felt

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by darigan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:10 pm

Thanks, lots of great tips there, the one about band passing the kick sounds interesting, its common sense when I think of it, but I'd never would of thought of it
lowpass wrote:layer with a clap,tom /any other percussion sound
I'm just guessing here man, good luck with the rimshot instead of a snare, sounds really cool on older dub tracks, glad to see somebody still wanting to use it
I'm actually a big fan of the older stuff, the track I'm working on is still half time, buts its got plenty of pace due to some :r: crazy hihats :r: , Its sounding good pretty good a Mo, I'll send ya copy when/if I ever get it done
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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by gnome » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:51 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:best tip i heard from someone out there

when any sample is lacking the mid bassy whack

band pass a kick to the exact frequency you want and layer it in and turn it down until its just felt
I love that piece of knowledge. Thanks

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by deadcode » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:45 am

Try layering it with a pitched down version of itself and then messing with that.

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by grooki » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:41 am

in dub and reggae if there's a rim shot on the 3 it's often layered with a kick - sounds nice and meaty. it does sound a bit weird though if you use the same kick on the 1.

I'd try layering the rim shot with a lped kick so that it's just the thump, and play with the asdr to make it fit nicely, and if you're gonna have unlayered kick elsewhere deal with the serperately...

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by gravity » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:49 pm

put another copy in your sampler i na different group, pitch it down about 5 or 7 semitones, shape it with a couple of filters (hp and lp) and a volume envelope.

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Re: Adding Weight to a rimshot?

Post by ekstrak » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:03 pm

Experiment with EQ'ing out a 'hole' for it in the mix.

I often find subtraction, rather than addition, yeilds better results.

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