Dubstep is growing too fast.

[fretn]

Hi,

I'm not an elitist in any case or form. But something has struck me quite hard the last couple of days,
out of nowhere dubstep is starting it's rise . Lots of people i know that didn't even like dubstep suddenly started listening to dubstep, posting youtube links on facebook. Also went to caspa and distance and it was full with people who wanted to see caspa (including lots of young children ). Until a month ago, the majority of youth in belgium hadn't even heard of dubstep (plus they call it dub all the time, which makes me sick) ever before. Now they're going to raves and always playing the same (overrinsed) tunes on the bus, train, street and facebook plus they listen to it because it sounds cool (i mean the posers). I don't know how you guys are feeling to this but i'm starting to feel an outsider in my own scene. not that i'm a drama queen and don't like the growth dubstep is going through (the more fans the better) but i just feel so different from them.

has anyone of you thought the same?

[86.]

I thought about this shit the other day.

in relation to a lot of genres, dubstep's popularity accelerated mad fast. Look at hip-hop, it took a long time to get to where it's at today (good or bad...and for different reasons of course).

but still, I think in the grand scheme of things dubstep is too bizarre of a sound to ever grow to the point where EVERYONE is on its jock. In my mind it will stay on an "underground" level.

My level of enjoyment for it has obviously dropped in comparison to when i first got into it....but it's still some of the freshest shit around...sort of. There's always glitch-hop, "wonky", aquacrunk, skweee, abstract techno, and all those other crazy genres/sounds to keep me interested.

I think EDM as a whole has come to an interesting point. I'm thinking 2010 will be a big year for a lot of shit. I'm looking at it like "the 00s are done, we're entering the 10s with some ridiculous new sounds. the next decade gonna be craaaaazy". Dubstep, as well as most EDM, is gonna be going FAR.

[_boring]

yea man, it happens in every scene, at least people go to the raves and pay entry fee

[hurlingdervish]

meh

who cares

and who cares if they call it dub

people will continue to do whatever the hell they please

[pk-]

this idea of a musical 'scene' is a dangerous one bred by the internet which by its very definition seeks to exclude newcomers, pine for the past and intellectualise the purely emotional

or some bollocks

[fretn]

as i sed i don't mind it, i've been listening to dubstep for 1,5 years now but only recently i've started to feel a stranger at some raves.

[wormcode]

as i sed i don't mind it, i've been listening to dubstep for 1,5 years now but only recently i've started to feel a stranger at some raves.

I've noticed the majority of "new" people like it as a club/party music and aren't really the type to listen to it on their own time, unless they go out. Of course talking wobblers as that's what is the most popular from what i've seen anyway.

[domhunt]

but i'm starting to feel an outsider in my own scene.

Yeah same. Blah.

[fretn]

as i sed i don't mind it, i've been listening to dubstep for 1,5 years now but only recently i've started to feel a stranger at some raves.

I've noticed the majority of "new" people like it as a club/party music and aren't really the type to listen to it on their own time, unless they go out. Of course talking wobblers as that's what is the most popular from what i've seen anyway.

what do you mean with a wobbler?

[86.]

as i sed i don't mind it, i've been listening to dubstep for 1,5 years now but only recently i've started to feel a stranger at some raves.

I've noticed the majority of "new" people like it as a club/party music and aren't really the type to listen to it on their own time, unless they go out. Of course talking wobblers as that's what is the most popular from what i've seen anyway.

what do you mean with a wobbler?

womp womp womp womp...WOOOOOOOOOOMP WAWAWAWAWAWA WOMP WOMP WOMP

that sorta thing. the wild LFO shit.

[fretn]

as i sed i don't mind it, i've been listening to dubstep for 1,5 years now but only recently i've started to feel a stranger at some raves.

I've noticed the majority of "new" people like it as a club/party music and aren't really the type to listen to it on their own time, unless they go out. Of course talking wobblers as that's what is the most popular from what i've seen anyway.

what do you mean with a wobbler?

womp womp womp womp...WOOOOOOOOOOMP WAWAWAWAWAWA WOMP WOMP WOMP

that sorta thing. the wild LFO shit.

ahaa eureka

[alien pimp]

this idea of a musical 'scene' is a dangerous one bred by the internet which by its very definition seeks to exclude newcomers, pine for the past and intellectualise the purely emotional

or some bollocks

[wormcode]

as i sed i don't mind it, i've been listening to dubstep for 1,5 years now but only recently i've started to feel a stranger at some raves.

I've noticed the majority of "new" people like it as a club/party music and aren't really the type to listen to it on their own time, unless they go out. Of course talking wobblers as that's what is the most popular from what i've seen anyway.

what do you mean with a wobbler?

womp womp womp womp...WOOOOOOOOOOMP WAWAWAWAWAWA WOMP WOMP WOMP

that sorta thing. the wild LFO shit.

ahaa eureka

Yeah those, I mean nothing against them I like 'em enough, they are great club music, but not something i'd be listening to at home usually ya know. That's usually the first thing someone thinks of when they hear the word "dubstep", it's definitely the most popular kind for whatever reason.

[86.]

I don't think "musical scenes" are bred by internet, surely their bred in real life with people who actually attend events.

Like minded people with similar tastes in music....etc.

[hurlingdervish]

I don't think "musical scenes" are bred by internet, surely their bred in real life with people who actually attend events.

Like minded people with similar tastes in music....etc.

and are usually a recipe/excuse for bad music

fuck scenes let the music speak for itself, not be a fashion statement for how cool you think you are

lest we all dress in black wear mosh hats and cross our arms at shows waiting for the break down...

[86.]

I don't think "musical scenes" are bred by internet, surely their bred in real life with people who actually attend events.

Like minded people with similar tastes in music....etc.

and are usually a recipe/excuse for bad music

fuck scenes let the music speak for itself, not be a fashion statement for how cool you think you are

lest we all dress in black wear mosh hats and cross our arms at shows waiting for the break down...

are you saying it's the creation of scenes that makes the music bad overtime?

[pk-]

Nah the "scene" has literally no effect on the music whatsoever.

Currently you've got dubstep growing at a phenomenal rate, becoming a much wider known genre and garnering interest from a much more varied audience. You've got thousands of producers when not that long ago there was just a handful, towering musical behemoths like Snoop Dogg making (shite) dubstep tunes and a purely dubstep show about to start (or already started, fucked if I know) on a BBC radio station. Dubstep nights are rammed full of people going mental to all sorts of different tunes and there's never been so many people having fun - in one way or another - due to dubstep.

Surely that's what constitutes a "scene"? The music itself might be generally pish nowadays but the "scene" around it is rare fucking form.

Compare that to what's generally said on the internet about the "dubstep scene" though. It's almost 100% negative, and that's always the case whenever you get this "scene" idea forming. You don't get people standing in the corners of clubs discussing how the scene's doing, it's purely on the internet - that's because it's something that doesn't need defining when you're actually in the midst of it. It can only be described as being different (ie worse) once it's defined, and that inevitably leads to people getting disillusioned with it.

[nousd]

i don't like crowds
prefer some space

[hurlingdervish]

Nah the "scene" has literally no effect on the music whatsoever.

Currently you've got dubstep growing at a phenomenal rate, becoming a much wider known genre and garnering interest from a much more varied audience. You've got thousands of producers when not that long ago there was just a handful, towering musical behemoths like Snoop Dogg making (shite) dubstep tunes and a purely dubstep show about to start (or already started, fucked if I know) on a BBC radio station. Dubstep nights are rammed full of people going mental to all sorts of different tunes and there's never been so many people having fun - in one way or another - due to dubstep.

Surely that's what constitutes a "scene"? The music itself might be generally pish nowadays but the "scene" around it is rare fucking form.

well thats exactly the thing, there is really no notion of what dubstep is beyond 140 halfstep sub bass so there isn't a scene like there is american hardcore music...where the scene DOES affect the music
where every band sounds the same because the group of people who support it are on the same wavelength all the time. originally there was innovation in hardcore, but then it became all about the breakdown, and soon every band has 100 breakdowns in their songs

where as the original "scene" in the hippy days, they would probably support anybody who played good music for everyone, and if electronic music was around, they would go nuts over dubstep

scene is a shitty word anyway....but the people who buy the tickets and the records do affect where the music goes just as much as the dj selectin tunes

[hurlingdervish]

and don't take it as complaining either, i personally don't care if dubstep is over run by wobble headz. its just a discussion is all