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trypset
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Advanced DJ EQing

Post by trypset » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:41 pm

I'm confident with my beat and phrase matching. I now want to concentrate on using the EQ's more to manipulate the mix.

Any tips/tricks/techniques would be much appreciated. Anything from how you use EQs to when to cut certain frequencies.

I practice all day every day and am not asking for an easy way out anything, just want ideas on how to use the mixer better. Thanks

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by AnalGangstaHo » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:06 pm

I'll tend to cut the bass off the tune that's playing out just as the new tracks bass kicks in, then bring the gain down slowly to fade the track out, and/or bring up the mids/ highs up on the new track if neccessary or begin taking the mids/highs out of the old one, but experiment and see what works for you.
You can get some interesting sounds going on when two different tunes are being mixed and one or the other is getting tweaked and certain tunes seem to resonate off each other, hard to explain but you'll know when it's happening =) just a case of playing it by ear, getting to know your tunes inside out and seeing what works with what. Or just getting lucky :D

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by trypset » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:39 pm

word, i'd rather get to know my tunes than to just hope I get lucky. Thanks for you reply.

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by Depone » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:59 pm

Get a mixer with filters!

Whole new level of funk

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by trypset » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:26 pm

thats awesome because that was my next question. Are filters used alot in dubstep mixing? When I play out the mixers are almost always Pioneer something with filters. I like the filters but don't practice with any so don't really feel too comfy with them.

Thanks

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by Depone » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:42 pm

trypset wrote:thats awesome because that was my next question. Are filters used alot in dubstep mixing? When I play out the mixers are almost always Pioneer something with filters. I like the filters but don't practice with any so don't really feel too comfy with them.

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I personally dont like the pioneer filters. Unless your using their latest mixer that you can manually funk around with it.
The filters in the allen and heath mixers are to die for.

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by Sharmaji » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:58 pm

i love the filter and sweep color effects on the djm800-- provided youv'e already got your tunes in sync, you can practically do 1-handed mixing.

you can always use eq's to bring in or out the bassline and kick of 1 tune, and make for fun exchanges, either during a mix or building up to a doubledrop.
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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by funk10 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:12 pm

i agree, i think is really important to know your tracks playing dubstep to me is much like like playing hip hop in that you have to program your sets and practice them before you go out and play a party where as playing more four to the floor styles its easier to just vibe and kinda pick tracks on the fly. i use eqing for two major applications one to make the drop of the new tune come harder, say you have the end or a break of a track playing then you bring in a new track i will let the bass from both tracks thru at about 50% then when he drop is about to hit on the new track EQ its bass to zero(no boost no cut) and it will seem to drop harder it seems to work for me. the other use i EQ alot for is if i have two tunes going and say the high hats kinda clash but the rest of the drums sound good together you can cut the highs of one tune out to keep the top end from being to busy also watch putting two really big snares together it can cause your master level to peak and make distortion so you can always cut the mid of one track by about 25% to avoid this

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by trypset » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:23 pm

thanks for all the contributions.

I really don't like the Pioneer mixers at all either. They color the sound even when nothing is "on".

Keep em coming!!!!

How ya'll like to bring in tracks? Of course they are all different.....but H-M-L = 10-10-7(O'clocl postions) are how I normally start to bring in a track.

Heres my current promo......http://www.zshare.net/audio/657747376166c0ed

let me know if theres anything (EQ Wise) that should be addressed.

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by sqyttles » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:50 am

trypset wrote:How ya'll like to bring in tracks? Of course they are all different.....but H-M-L = 10-10-7(O'clocl postions) are how I normally start to bring in a track.
I like to intro my tracks usually at 12-10-7 for H-M-L because the highs have so much range that there's usually not a problem with mixing in a new tune with highs all the way up. The same can't be said for mids.

I like how eqs usually don't completely go to kill. The Pioneer DJM-800 has a bleed through of -26db for their EQs and that little bit of sound definitely adds something to the mix.
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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by trypset » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:55 am

word.

I played on a Pioneer DJM-800 last night and messed with the filters more than normal forcing myself out of my comfort zone. I definately noticed some great possibilities and had some dope new mixes. I want to get a mixer at home with filters, preferably an Ecler or A&H 3-Channel.

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by FSTZ » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:01 am

trypset wrote:word.

I played on a Pioneer DJM-800 last night and messed with the filters more than normal forcing myself out of my comfort zone. I definately noticed some great possibilities and had some dope new mixes. I want to get a mixer at home with filters, preferably an Ecler or A&H 3-Channel.

Peas
that is what I use

I mix with the HPF just cutting the bass when the next tune drops

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by grooki » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:56 am

this has been very useful info :w:

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by trypset » Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:24 am

I agree :)

when you guys are mixing mainly with the filters......say you mix out of a track and it is finished. When you are cueing the next track do you leave the filter in the same position you left off at or take it back to 0?

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by AnalGangstaHo » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:28 pm

Back to 0 mate. And don't get too carried away with 'em using them on every track else it stops having the required effect on your audience and they get sick of it!
There's a shite pub round where I live and on Fridays this guy DJs Electro House and Trance and he makes some fukkin right racket with filters and a tonne of other effects. On every tune. Badly. Best of it is it's full of old fuckers and no one ever dances! To him it must sound awesome but everyone else is in pain.

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by FSTZ » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:23 pm

you dont have to sweep the filter, just cut the bass and turn down the level

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by gwa » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:36 pm

Depone wrote:Get a mixer with filters!

Whole new level of funk

A&H filters are the shizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. 8)
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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by deadly_habit » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:49 pm

spin some 4x4 heavy kick based stuff like some fidget or electro house
will get you using eqs and filters like mad then bring it to dubstep dnb or whatever else you spin

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by webstarr » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:39 pm

c/s about the A&H filters, they are amazing

what I do with EQ varies from track to track but I usually boost the mids & tops of the incoming tune & cut the mids & tops of the tune thats already in before I've switched the bass. After i've swapped the bass over I tend to drop the new tune's eq to level & boost the out going tune in the mids & tops. I also like to use a hp filter on the outgoing track if there's a particular part i want to bring out whilst the tunes are mixed.

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Re: Advanced DJ EQing

Post by Depone » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:40 pm

I rarely if ever boost the highs and mids, It can sound really nasty and you will actually loose a lot of headroom if the system is limited.
It can really hurt your ears

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