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Post by tripaddict » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:12 pm

Made a really rubbish beat that you didnt like and after some hard work its turned out to be pretty darn good ?

Usually if i'm not feeling something within the first 10/20mins of production i give up and start again

I was working on this tune last week and thought it was going no where but now its getting quite promising :)

Even tho i was beginning to hate it.

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Post by lowpass » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:17 pm

Usually it starts as good, slowly goes down a path you don't like till you think it's rubbish, but there's something that stops you throwing it away. Then one day you come back and that's when it starts progressing the way you originally intended :D

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Post by Blue Patterns » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:25 pm

destroying major parts of the beat helps me a lot now. It's almost instinct now. The very second I feel like the tune is trash...I strip away parts and rebuild from there.

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Post by drokkr » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:29 pm

I have a little rule for myself - if I'm not feeling 32 bars, I dump it. Leave music alone for a bit and start fresh. I find it a major help, stops me getting bogged down in a track that I'm forcing to work and not getting any flow with.

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Post by wirez » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:34 pm

I have this habit of forcing myself to work with things that don't work... I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing though, I do it with samples too... "This sample is SHIT wtf am I going to do with this?!" So I try anyway :D

Usually I end up doing what Blue Patterns does and the tracks don't end up anything like how they started, but it feels so much more accomplishing finishing EVERYTHING you start and keeping one tiny element there, even if it's just the hi hats; than deleting the entire track and starting something new...
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Post by tripaddict » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:06 pm

yeah its annoying tho when u get a really good bass pattern but cant get a beat to go with it or vice versa

have a really beat but nothing seems to fit ....
drokkr wrote:I have a little rule for myself - if I'm not feeling 32 bars, I dump it. Leave music alone for a bit and start fresh. I find it a major help, stops me getting bogged down in a track that I'm forcing to work and not getting any flow with.
^^ this is what i do with beats n stuff i like in tunes that i feel are progressing but i delete loads till i know it sounds better :)

then make some more patterns on par :)

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Post by DZA » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:07 pm

drokkr wrote:Iif I'm not feeling 32 bars, I dump it.
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Post by thierry_le_dj » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:03 pm

every track i start i always try to to finish even tho its even crap most of my track's i have probably re edited them over 100 times..but its not that hard to just play around with it until you get the sound your looking for i have made track that i have finish in 2day's and i have track's that it only took 1week and i have some track's i have started month's ago and still re editing them..everytime i improve in production i always go back to my old crappy trax and try to make them perfect..

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Post by BOOGIE BOY » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:11 am

If i'm not feeling a track, it gets saved in the 'unfinished' folder, so one day, months down the line I might be feelin it. Never dump any track, save it somewhere, sometimes the brain gets tired, or you sometimes try too hard. When you revisit tunes after weeks/months, you should hear them in a new light.
So create that 'unfinished folder', what have you got to lose(10mb), you won't and can't regret it.............................

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Post by back2onett » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:31 am

whenever I start a new track I always keep it really simple, stick the main tune on a square wave and just have a really simple kick snare beat then I'll come back to it later and if I like the tune or think it has potential I'll keep going with it
How does I wobbled bass?

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Post by dsp08 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:42 am

liking the track mate , i understand where your coming from .. working on a track for a continuous amout of time can started to get you down and stressed out , if things are not going how you want them to . but it looks like this has turned out to be quite promising , great stuff keep up the work (Y)..

Any chance of a 320 ??

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Post by abZ » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:30 am

For a lot of years I filled my drives with very short tunes that went nowhere but my life has changed, I have a family and job and all that so it doesn't leave me a lot of time to get creative so I don't bother making anything thats crap. I just keep at it until it sounds good. I would never get any music finished if I didn't finish almost everything I start. I am not trying to sound arrogant, not saying all my tunes are golden but I have just gotten to the point where I weed out the shit ideas before I even put them down. Makes life easier. It has taken my 20+ years to get to this point tho.

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Post by tripaddict » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:30 pm

dsp08 wrote:liking the track mate
big up
Any chance of a 320 ??

... thats not the one im working on but if you click the little blue mp3 button it should start to dl .... the track im talking about is still in fl :D

i always save random beats but tbh i never go back to them if im not feeling em

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Post by tripaddict » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:32 pm

abZ wrote: I don't bother making anything thats crap.
i wish i could say the same

It has taken my 20+ years to get to this point tho.
dam i got another 5 years to go

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Post by AnalGangstaHo » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:54 pm

I did the opposite yesterday and got a really simple but fat tune goin after about 5 mins of turning my computer on. I then spent about 2 hrs listening to the same 16 bar loop whilst overcomplicating and fuckin up what was, like I sed, a really simple but effective idea for a tune.

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Post by basicanarchy101 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:47 am

Never dump anything!

Bounce down everything into what would seem to you like cross-applicable loops, because when you make it, it might all sound shit, n then one day, browsing through your archives looking for that quick n easy premade hat pattern, theres the ones from the otherwise shit beat, shinin as they had the potential too.

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Post by tripaddict » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:33 pm

basicanarchy101 wrote:Never dump anything!

Bounce down everything into what would seem to you like cross-applicable loops, because when you make it, it might all sound shit, n then one day, browsing through your archives looking for that quick n easy premade hat pattern, theres the ones from the otherwise shit beat, shinin as they had the potential too.

good point dude :D i usually export the breaks if they sound any good :)

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Post by narcissus » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:01 am

hmm, i almost always am really liking something 10-20 minutes into it. if i develop it into a full song and after 1-2 hours i'm not really feeling it any more, i usually just hit save and start a new song... sometimes i come back and really like one part, so i take that out and build a song around it. sometimes they just sit. i've got this one 4 bar loop that's really hot but i haven't felt like really doing anything with it yet... but that day will come probably, it just takes patience

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Post by jsills » Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:33 pm

abZ wrote:I don't bother making anything thats crap. I just keep at it until it sounds good.
this. i get one solid idea and see it through to the end. i never start a tune without the intention of finishing it. its all about follow thru.
that being said, sometimes it takes me a while to get something i like, and i still experiment a lot but i just get way too distracted if i have multiple projects going at once.

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