Pikey thread

[manillathrilla]

what is a pikey? I dont believe in the states we really have an equivalent to a pikey. i think its awesome and hilarious. anyone with stories or definitions about pikeys?

[Uncle Mike]

there is no word equivalent but you can just apply this term to any honky-tonk motherfucker who's slower than two retards in a bowl of superglue.

[gender]

round my parts pikey is like a gypsy... a travelling man. easily spotted by amazing fighting skills, constant smell of shit and annoying accent.

brilliant people, youtube "pikey fights", theres some amazing stuff on there.

[tr0tsky]

If you wouldn't call an Asian a 'paki' or a black person a 'nig-nog' don't call either Roma or Sinti or Irish Travellers a 'pikey'.


It's not on.

[abelard]

there were a lot of travelling folk around my ends last year and the pub I was working at decided that after some kids running around and stealing shit from the kitchen that pikeys were to be banned. all the bar staff are under strict instructions not to serve groups of pikeys, so i get to watch this poor girl panicking when she sees one and then struggle to think of a reason to kick him out. she's stuttering through 'i'm sorry sir i'm not allowed to serve members of... the irish...gyp... travelling.... community.... of pikeys,' to some normal looking bloke with a beard who basically ignores her and keeps chatting with his mates at the bar and eventually tells her he's not a pikey and to get him a pint.

[hackman]

pikeys are UK yobs, not gypsies, who go around the country in caravans avoiding tax
pikeys are football hooligans

chavs are young pikeys

[elibomyekip]

Hey guys

[particle-jim]

Hey guys

[rbnc]

If you wouldn't call an Asian a 'paki' or a black person a 'nig-nog' don't call either Roma or Sinti or Irish Travellers a 'pikey'.


It's not on.

Yeah, gypsies are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.

[tr0tsky]

Yeah, nig-nogs are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.




Yeah, Jews are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.





Yeah, Paki's are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.




Yeah, homosexuals are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.

[elibomyekip]

I haven't heard the term nig-nog since my nan died.

[tr0tsky]

Also, not only are the travellers in the UK not 'gypsies' (itself a racist term: the Roma are from India and not from Egypt) but the anti-Roma prejudice that you reel off is nothing new.


An estimated 500,000 died in the Holocaust because Hitler deemed them to be 'rootless parasites' and they face similar discrimination today in Eastern Europe and scarily in Italy, too.

The country is home to about 150,000, who live mainly in squalid conditions on the outskirts of major cities such as Rome, Milan and Naples. They amount to less than 0.3 per cent of the population, one of the lowest proportions in Europe. In general, the ethnic group lives apart and is often blamed for petty theft and burglaries.[37]

On July 3, 2008 it was announced that Italy had started fingerprinting their Romani populations, despite accusations of racism by human rights advocates and international organizations. Interior Minister Roberto Maroni told parliament the move was needed to fight crime and identify illegal immigrants for expulsion, but also to improve the lives of those legally living in the makeshift, often unsanitary camps.[38]

On July 19, 2008 two Romani girls drowned off Torregaveta, west of Naples. A group of four Romani children had gone into the water despite a warning being issued about rough seas. When the children began to drown, beachgoers and lifeguards rescued two of them, but two girls, Christina Ibramovitc and Violetta Ibramovitc were dead by the time they had been pulled out of the water. The two bodies were laid out on the sand and covered up with towels. Local newspapers reported that sunbathers continued as normal with a day at the beach despite the bodies of the two girls lying there for an hour.[39] A crowd of curious onlookers that had gathered around the bodies quickly dispersed. After an hour, a mortuary van arrived to collect the bodies. People reacted with indifference as the bodies were loaded into coffins and carried away. Photographs of the incident drew condemnation from Italian newspapers, an archbishop, and civil liberties campaigners. Hostility to the Romanis has been growing in recent years, and according to Enzo Esposito of Opera Nomadi, Italy's largest Romani organisation, the events on the beach "showed a terrible lack of sensitivity and respect."[40]

On September 4, 2008 the European Commission said Italy's census of illegal Romani camps does not discriminate against the Romani community. They said the census is in line with European Union law. An analysis of an Italian report on the census showed it did not seek "data based on ethnic origin or religion," said Michele Cercone, spokesman for European Justice Commissioner Jacques Barrot. The controversial fingerprinting programme has the sole aim of "identifying persons who cannot be identified in any other way," he said. The fingerprinting of minors was only being carried out "in strictly necessary cases and as the ultimate possibility of identification," Cercone said.[41][broken citation][42]

In May 2008 Romani camps in Naples, Italy were attacked and set on fire by local residents.[43] In July 2008, the Italian government began fingerprinting all Romanies, including children, whether or not they are Italian citizens. The government claimed fingerprinting would cut crime, avoid children being used for begging and help identify illegal immigrants for expulsion.[44]

In Italy, the government recently tried to blame the Romani population for crimes that happened in large cities[citation needed] and has claimed that there is a Roma Emergency. Marco Impagliazzo, president of the Community of Sant'Egidio human rights organization said: There is no national emergency ... What is an emergency is that in the 21st century the life expectancy of a gypsy living in Italy is under 60 years of age.[45]

A study done by an Italian anthropologist revealed that stereotypes are stronger in the Italian mind than the reality itself. She investigated a series of child kidnappings in Italy done supposedly by Romani women, and found that not even one of them was actually true.[46]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism#Italy

[Uncle Mike]

An estimated 500,000 died in the Holocaust because Hitler deemed them to be 'rootless parasites' and they face similar discrimination today in Eastern Europe and scarily in Italy, too.


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sounds good.
where do I sign up, sir?

[HamCrescendo]

I'm part Roma. It's all good, except I'm paler than the melting snow because I'm mostly irish.

Imma gippo lol


Think the term "pikey" is a bit too broad to be put in the same context as nig-nog.

[missedthebus]

Also, not only are the travellers in the UK not 'gypsies' (itself a racist term: the Roma are from India and not from Egypt) but the anti-Roma prejudice that you reel off is nothing new.


An estimated 500,000 died in the Holocaust because Hitler deemed them to be 'rootless parasites' and they face similar discrimination today in Eastern Europe and scarily in Italy, too.

The country is home to about 150,000, who live mainly in squalid conditions on the outskirts of major cities such as Rome, Milan and Naples. They amount to less than 0.3 per cent of the population, one of the lowest proportions in Europe. In general, the ethnic group lives apart and is often blamed for petty theft and burglaries.[37]

On July 3, 2008 it was announced that Italy had started fingerprinting their Romani populations, despite accusations of racism by human rights advocates and international organizations. Interior Minister Roberto Maroni told parliament the move was needed to fight crime and identify illegal immigrants for expulsion, but also to improve the lives of those legally living in the makeshift, often unsanitary camps.[38]

On July 19, 2008 two Romani girls drowned off Torregaveta, west of Naples. A group of four Romani children had gone into the water despite a warning being issued about rough seas. When the children began to drown, beachgoers and lifeguards rescued two of them, but two girls, Christina Ibramovitc and Violetta Ibramovitc were dead by the time they had been pulled out of the water. The two bodies were laid out on the sand and covered up with towels. Local newspapers reported that sunbathers continued as normal with a day at the beach despite the bodies of the two girls lying there for an hour.[39] A crowd of curious onlookers that had gathered around the bodies quickly dispersed. After an hour, a mortuary van arrived to collect the bodies. People reacted with indifference as the bodies were loaded into coffins and carried away. Photographs of the incident drew condemnation from Italian newspapers, an archbishop, and civil liberties campaigners. Hostility to the Romanis has been growing in recent years, and according to Enzo Esposito of Opera Nomadi, Italy's largest Romani organisation, the events on the beach "showed a terrible lack of sensitivity and respect."[40]

On September 4, 2008 the European Commission said Italy's census of illegal Romani camps does not discriminate against the Romani community. They said the census is in line with European Union law. An analysis of an Italian report on the census showed it did not seek "data based on ethnic origin or religion," said Michele Cercone, spokesman for European Justice Commissioner Jacques Barrot. The controversial fingerprinting programme has the sole aim of "identifying persons who cannot be identified in any other way," he said. The fingerprinting of minors was only being carried out "in strictly necessary cases and as the ultimate possibility of identification," Cercone said.[41][broken citation][42]

In May 2008 Romani camps in Naples, Italy were attacked and set on fire by local residents.[43] In July 2008, the Italian government began fingerprinting all Romanies, including children, whether or not they are Italian citizens. The government claimed fingerprinting would cut crime, avoid children being used for begging and help identify illegal immigrants for expulsion.[44]

In Italy, the government recently tried to blame the Romani population for crimes that happened in large cities[citation needed] and has claimed that there is a Roma Emergency. Marco Impagliazzo, president of the Community of Sant'Egidio human rights organization said: There is no national emergency ... What is an emergency is that in the 21st century the life expectancy of a gypsy living in Italy is under 60 years of age.[45]

A study done by an Italian anthropologist revealed that stereotypes are stronger in the Italian mind than the reality itself. She investigated a series of child kidnappings in Italy done supposedly by Romani women, and found that not even one of them was actually true.[46]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism#Italy

Yes but British travellers are not Romany gypsies, there's a distinct difference in ethnic/racial origin. Regardless, true travellers share the same cultural heritage. People shouldn't generalise against the true travellers in the uk , but if someone robs your garden furniture why not call em pikeys for piking your shit? Would use this in the same context for some chav mod, rocker of vicar piking my shit.
Calling someone a pikey is more defined by their actions not their ethnicity/race/creed.

[rbnc]

Yeah, nig-nogs are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.




Yeah, Jews are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.





Yeah, Paki's are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.




Yeah, homosexuals are a valued, contributing part of mainstream society, who never break the law or anything.

They are delicious and intelligent. They also hate fighting and always clear up their mess.

I don't actually think of the groups you've mentioned above are stigmatised with the issues I highlighted, if you think they are, that is your view of them manifesting itself. Being a Jew myself, I'd hope you thought better of us too .

Another point is that, I can think of many, many members of each of those groups above who do actually contribute to society, but I've never heard of someone who is both a traveler and a doctor or a anthropologist or something.

[Firkles]

It's a racial slur; like 'philistine' it has become somewhat diluted because of it's over use. Some of the British travelers are actually descended from the nomadic tribes that traversed around the place when London was still a few mud huts.

[gender]

fuckin pikeys

[dcrock]

I don't actually think of the groups you've mentioned above are stigmatised with the issues I highlighted, if you think they are, that is your view of them manifesting itself. Being a Jew myself, I'd hope you thought better of us too .

Another point is that, I can think of many, many members of each of those groups above who do actually contribute to society, but I've never heard of someone who is both a traveler and a doctor or a anthropologist or something.

i think his point was the generalising of "pikeys" is exactly the same as generalising any of the above groups, not saying that all those groups are the same.

[z.u.bee]

Also, not only are the travellers in the UK not 'gypsies' (itself a racist term: the Roma are from India and not from Egypt) but the anti-Roma prejudice that you reel off is nothing new.


An estimated 500,000 died in the Holocaust because Hitler deemed them to be 'rootless parasites' and they face similar discrimination today in Eastern Europe and scarily in Italy, too.

The country is home to about 150,000, who live mainly in squalid conditions on the outskirts of major cities such as Rome, Milan and Naples. They amount to less than 0.3 per cent of the population, one of the lowest proportions in Europe. In general, the ethnic group lives apart and is often blamed for petty theft and burglaries.[37]

On July 3, 2008 it was announced that Italy had started fingerprinting their Romani populations, despite accusations of racism by human rights advocates and international organizations. Interior Minister Roberto Maroni told parliament the move was needed to fight crime and identify illegal immigrants for expulsion, but also to improve the lives of those legally living in the makeshift, often unsanitary camps.[38]

On July 19, 2008 two Romani girls drowned off Torregaveta, west of Naples. A group of four Romani children had gone into the water despite a warning being issued about rough seas. When the children began to drown, beachgoers and lifeguards rescued two of them, but two girls, Christina Ibramovitc and Violetta Ibramovitc were dead by the time they had been pulled out of the water. The two bodies were laid out on the sand and covered up with towels. Local newspapers reported that sunbathers continued as normal with a day at the beach despite the bodies of the two girls lying there for an hour.[39] A crowd of curious onlookers that had gathered around the bodies quickly dispersed. After an hour, a mortuary van arrived to collect the bodies. People reacted with indifference as the bodies were loaded into coffins and carried away. Photographs of the incident drew condemnation from Italian newspapers, an archbishop, and civil liberties campaigners. Hostility to the Romanis has been growing in recent years, and according to Enzo Esposito of Opera Nomadi, Italy's largest Romani organisation, the events on the beach "showed a terrible lack of sensitivity and respect."[40]

On September 4, 2008 the European Commission said Italy's census of illegal Romani camps does not discriminate against the Romani community. They said the census is in line with European Union law. An analysis of an Italian report on the census showed it did not seek "data based on ethnic origin or religion," said Michele Cercone, spokesman for European Justice Commissioner Jacques Barrot. The controversial fingerprinting programme has the sole aim of "identifying persons who cannot be identified in any other way," he said. The fingerprinting of minors was only being carried out "in strictly necessary cases and as the ultimate possibility of identification," Cercone said.[41][broken citation][42]

In May 2008 Romani camps in Naples, Italy were attacked and set on fire by local residents.[43] In July 2008, the Italian government began fingerprinting all Romanies, including children, whether or not they are Italian citizens. The government claimed fingerprinting would cut crime, avoid children being used for begging and help identify illegal immigrants for expulsion.[44]

In Italy, the government recently tried to blame the Romani population for crimes that happened in large cities[citation needed] and has claimed that there is a Roma Emergency. Marco Impagliazzo, president of the Community of Sant'Egidio human rights organization said: There is no national emergency ... What is an emergency is that in the 21st century the life expectancy of a gypsy living in Italy is under 60 years of age.[45]

A study done by an Italian anthropologist revealed that stereotypes are stronger in the Italian mind than the reality itself. She investigated a series of child kidnappings in Italy done supposedly by Romani women, and found that not even one of them was actually true.[46]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism#Italy

in all fairness i agree with you to a certain extent, have you seen these places with your own eyes??
electronic tagging or fingerprinting is wrong if no crime was committed but italy DOES have an escalating illegal immigrant problem.

plus, its easy to make your own opinion reading things here and there, but mate i can tell you through being there at the time that the 'barracopoli' (shed-opolis) outside of rome burned down that it was over a mile in diameter and made out of wood, card and bits of rubbish, easy for it to catch fire from the smallest of sparks,

as for naples, watch 'gommorrah' and you only scratch the surface of the places that some italians have to live in,
either that or try to visit these areas and from there it doesnt take much for you to realise that down south in italy is borderline 'third world' material as it is and these people have nothing and will feel threatened by anyone moving in on what little they have left.

and as for what the italian 'lefties' (communists) come up with is not always on point, mainly because both left and right wing use this sort of material to mock each other out of power whilst never really getting to any sort of valid or helpful conclusion.


no hate no disrespect just my 2 pence..