Whats wrong with just using sub

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:30 am

for bass these days?

I'm not having a go or anything I am just interested in peoples opinion as to why they always need a mid range bassline as well as a sub.

I personally think that 90% of tunes what have a mid range bass would be 20 times better without it, I like having harmonic warmth from the melody/pads/other weird sounds in my own tunes and from the tunes I buy and play out - this is a common trend.

SO thats my personal opinion, whats yours?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:33 am

all about what artistic vision you have in your head when you sit down.

djake · Post by **djake** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:47 am

just depends init.

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:51 am

Nothings wrong with just using sub the way you do it cuz, pure groove.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:54 am

I would like to set people who've only made tunes with mid-range bass a challenge.

Make a tune without one - and post it here, it can be like a minute long - just experiment with filling frequencies with other sounds - its fun!

And for the hell of it, I will make my next tune with a dirty mid range bassline.

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:07 am

legend4ry wrote: And for the hell of it, I will make my next tune with a dirty mid range bassline.

green plan · Post by **green plan** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:10 am

I really like tunes with just sub, but I personally think it's harder to do 'well'. As in, if you have a sine then layer it with some mid range bass it is easier to feel like you have a 'complete' track. With just sub you need to do more to add warmth and interest. Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...

yong · Post by **yong** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:16 am

green plan wrote:Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...

I hear subbass on my ipod.

narcissus · Post by **narcissus** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:18 am

i like sub more than anything... i like it even more with some mid range... mid range to me is all about conveying energy, enthusiasm, boldness... i like to start a track w/ just sub, and get some spiritual vibes and peacefulness.. then when that's run it's course, add in teh mid range bits and set things off. that's just how i like to build tunes. it's all about what you want to express.

mp3cdconverter · Post by **mp3cdconverter** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:55 am

Well,I don't think you are wrong,dude.Just do what you like to do.Everyone has different hobbies,you can't make everyone loves what you love,so just do what you like.I support you.

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tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:05 am

real sub basses are inaudible more something u feel

thats why u use a mid range bass too

tripaddict · Post by **tripaddict** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:06 am

yong wrote:
green plan wrote:Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...

I hear subbass on my ipod.

word ... some how that sentence is completely wrong

cloak and dagger · Post by **cloak and dagger** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:34 am

yong wrote:
green plan wrote:Plus the i-pod crew miss out haha...

I hear subbass on my ipod.

missed the point completely

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:21 am

agree re just using sub is harder. you're naked out there. If your groove is wack it just shows. always think all that bro stuff is just a flim flam, a shell game. You move the shit around real fast and no one notices that there is no real musical content underneath.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:23 am

nowaysj wrote:agree re just using sub is harder. you're naked out there. If your groove is wack it just shows. always think all that bro stuff is just a flim flam, a shell game. You move the shit around real fast and no one notices that there is no real musical content underneath.

Mhm, seems most people are saying - in a very devious way "I use it cause I can't be bothered to make groove" its a shame yo.

breakbait · Post by **breakbait** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:36 am

all my tunes are pretty much just sub, i'll have some new bits up soon. it's been a bit long..

back2onett · Post by **back2onett** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:12 pm

I think tunes with just a sub are a little dry, don't get me wrong some people can use sub bass on its own and it sounds great, I just think it adds some colour when you've got something else going on further up the freq spectrum. I can't imagine making a t une without sub bass but I always layer it on top of everything else. I'd be up for trying a song with no mids though just to see how it goes

gnome · Post by **gnome** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:59 pm

I can't write a sequence using sub bass. I only feel it sounds good on root c so I stick to that

Which sucks because it does sound awesome

collige · Post by **collige** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:13 pm

tripaddict wrote:real sub basses are inaudible more something u feel

thats why u use a mid range bass too

The human ear can hear down to 20hz.

djake · Post by **djake** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:19 pm

yea its just 20Hz has to be very loud for us to be able to hear it, if i remember my acoustic classes at college correctly.

i could be wrong i never really payed much attention.

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