Best EQ because ableton's suck

[WeBang]

I need a good 8 point style EQ like ableton's. Abletons EQ just does not fut out frequencies like I would like. For instance if I cut out 0-100 it doesn't cut out enough where if I use the 3 EQ and cut out 0-100 on the lows it cuts out exactly everything from 0-100.

Can anyone recommend a good EQ VST that either runs on VISTA 64

[Basic A]

What?

If you use your eq to cut 0-100 its still there?

Tighten your curve. The other eq has much sharper curve Im betting, and your not used to them curving (which they do, something because of phase, no curve is a filter, hence why filters sound so damn nifty...)

And if you have an EQ that does what youneed already...

WTF is the thread about?

[deadly_habit]

you looking for free or have a budget? also may want to use a filter if you're just doing a roll off

[WeBang]

Basic your nothing but a let down. Never have anything good to contribute when it comes to help.

EQ 8


EQ 3


EQ 8 you can lo-cut from 0-100 and you will still get sound in that Frequency range. EQ 3 is more geared for ableton live mixing but cutting with EQ really cuts out the entire frequency, But its not really there for production because it doesn't allow you to use Q in on it.

Obviously EQ8 is more geared for production but when using it doesn't cut frequencies completely out.

So anyone besides Basic A know of a quality 8 point style EQ. Something where I may want to cut out lets say 0-100 but also cut out somthing at 250 and boost at 1500 on the same EQ?

[WeBang]

you looking for free or have a budget? also may want to use a filter if you're just doing a roll off

Deadly no budget really if its worth it. Not looking to spend to much though an EQ8. If there a freebies let me know.

below will give a better example as to why I don't just use a filter.

[deadly_habit]

Basic your nothing but a let down. Never have anything good to contribute when it comes to help.

EQ 8


EQ 3


EQ 8 you can lo-cut from 0-100 and you will still get sound in that Frequency range. EQ 3 is more geared for ableton live mixing but cutting with EQ really cuts out the entire frequency, But its not really there for production because it doesn't allow you to use Q in on it.

Obviously EQ8 is more geared for production but when using it doesn't cut frequencies completely out.

So anyone besides Basic A know of a quality 8 point style EQ. Something where I may want to cut out lets say 0-100 but also cut out somthing at 250 and boost at 1500 on the same EQ?

waves renaissance eqs or urs are gen my go tos, but those are a bit pricey
if it's doing everything you want besides your roll off like i said i'd use a filter for that range

[deadly_habit]

posihfopit looks like it could be decent
http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/ ... s-filters/

[Assassin]

I need a good 8 point style EQ like ableton's. Abletons EQ just does not fut out frequencies like I would like. For instance if I cut out 0-100 it doesn't cut out enough where if I use the 3 EQ and cut out 0-100 on the lows it cuts out exactly everything from 0-100.

Can anyone recommend a good EQ VST that either runs on VISTA 64

Why do you want to absolutely cut everything? If you have EQ3 then use that anyway.

If you cut like that then it'll bring out major phasing issues, if you're cutting boom use a filter. Equalisation is for slight adjustments to enhance sound or clear space, not to completely get rid of a frequency.

[deadly_habit]

I need a good 8 point style EQ like ableton's. Abletons EQ just does not fut out frequencies like I would like. For instance if I cut out 0-100 it doesn't cut out enough where if I use the 3 EQ and cut out 0-100 on the lows it cuts out exactly everything from 0-100.

Can anyone recommend a good EQ VST that either runs on VISTA 64

Why do you want to absolutely cut everything? If you have EQ3 then use that anyway.

If you cut like that then it'll bring out major phasing issues, if you're cutting boom use a filter. Equalisation is for slight adjustments to enhance sound or clear space, not to completely get rid of a frequency.

truth
gain staging plays a big part, but even filtering when you switch between diff db ranges be it 12, 24, 48 etc and try to compensate with em you'll notice you are losing harmonics when you go too harsh
sound can be over analyzed and done by tools like spectral analyzers saying what is good analytically, but trust your ears. otherwise music would be made by machines and algorithms by now

[abZ]

EQ8 is my go to EQ, I guess I will be of no help here

[staticcast]

EQ8 is as capable as any top of the line EQ out there. If you need a HPF that cuts more below the cutoff frequency, use more poles (eg set bands 1 AND 2 to HPF at 100hz). In this sense, most 2-pole filters are created equal, and that's what each of the EQ8 bands are...

[cloak and dagger]

posihfopit looks like it could be decent
http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/ ... s-filters/

Actually the free edition of Electri-Q on that same page is much better. I generally just use the Cubase channel EQs, but when I want to get a little wilder, that's the one I use. The only thing to watch out for is that it sometimes crashes the host if you load it while the song is playing.

[Brisance]

PEQ2

[symmetricalsounds]

don't use eq3 as it colours the sound, personally i use frequalizer from the roger nichols pack but it's not cheap.

[Prefoma]

izotope alloy all the way

THE best channel strip plugin imo without going the UAD way

the EQ on it sounds sweet as hell

[gnome]

EQ8 is my go to EQ, I guess I will be of no help here

Same here. But he is right it doesn't cut the frequencies out completely.

[vly]

EQ8 is my go to EQ, I guess I will be of no help here

Same here. But he is right it doesn't cut the frequencies out completely.

Umghh ? What do you mean it doesn't cut out the frequencies completely ?

[gnome]

EQ8 is my go to EQ, I guess I will be of no help here

Same here. But he is right it doesn't cut the frequencies out completely.

Umghh ? What do you mean it doesn't cut out the frequencies completely ?

Talking about EQ8. As in it won't remove them fully. Try remove a particular frequency then run it through an analyser nad the frequency will still be there.

[xxxy]

eq8 >right click>hi quality

works for me and for engineers who master my tunes

[staticcast]

Let's clear up some stuff about EQs...

Unless you're talking about convolution EQs and more esoteric mastering stuff, NO filter or EQ will completely cut out everything in the stop band. That's what the filter order or rolloff, slope, etc, whatever you want to call it, tells you.

A 12dB highpass filter with cutoff set to 100Hz will (roughly speaking) attenuate everything below 100Hz with a slope of 12dB/octave. This is NOT the same as "cutting out everything under 100Hz". It means that stuff at 50Hz will be cut by 12dB, stuff at 25Hz will be cut by 24dB, stuff at 12.5Hz will be cut by 48dB, etc.

A 24dB highpass filter with the cutoff at 100Hz will cut 50Hz by 24dB, 25Hz by 48dB, etc - double the attenuation for your money.

Needless to say, a 12dB filter is not very steep because it still lets in loads of stuff under the cutoff frequency. This is what each HPF pole of Ableton EQ8 is: a 12 dB filter. (Actually it's a double pole but let's not go into that -- suffice to say that's also what LPF2/HPF2 are in Simpler, Operator, Sampler etc.) I'm not 100% sure, but my guess is that Ableton Autofilter uses a 4-pole filter, that is, 24dB/octave. Same with LPF4 in Sampler and Operator.

So basically, you can increase the filter order ad infinitum, and it'll cut out more and more of the shit under your cutoff frequency (for a HPF), but there's not really any such thing as "cutting everything below 100hz". Even EQ3 won't do that.

Here's the thing: two 12dB filters in series makes a 24dB filter. So if your EQ only offers 12dB filters, you can just use loads of them to make a 96dB filter, or whatever you want. In EQ8 this is equivalent to using more than one pole as a HPF, set at a similar frequency, to cut out more of the low end. You don't need an expensive 3rd party EQ to do this.


BTW, broadly speaking, filter = EQ.