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Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by DeadMath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:19 pm

Hi

Im having trouble figuring the drum pattern out for this track. Im a big fan of Joker and hopefully going to see him at Cream fields. I need to re-create the beat for a quick track im doing at college. Im not being marked on the beat or anything I just want to put the beat into Logic then I'll customise it.

Thanks for any Help

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by Depone » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:42 pm

DeadMath wrote:Hi

Im having trouble figuring the drum pattern out for this track. Im a big fan of Joker and hopefully going to see him at Cream fields. I need to re-create the beat for a quick track im doing at college. Im not being marked on the beat or anything I just want to put the beat into Logic then I'll customise it.

Thanks for any Help

DeadMath
If your using logic 9, why dont you turn on flex time, im guessing the track is at 140bpm. Then you can see the transients of the hits on the audio file, you can then right click the file and in one of the sub-menu's i forgot you can split the file by the transient markers. might be a useful guide.

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by komanderkin » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:04 pm

there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.

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Post by Depone » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:40 pm

komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.
Logic does this also ;)

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Post by phrex » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:07 am

ableton too
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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by stappard » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:53 am

Depone wrote:
komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.
Logic does this also ;)

It does? :o So much I have to learn......

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by marshy » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:59 am

stappard wrote:
Depone wrote:
komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.
Logic does this also ;)

It does? :o So much I have to learn......
Is this just 9?

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by stappard » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:01 am

marshy wrote:
stappard wrote:
Depone wrote:
komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.
Logic does this also ;)

It does? :o So much I have to learn......
Is this just 9?

As far as I know flex time is exclusive to 9. I've only recently upgraded, not sat down and had a good look round at the intricacies yet though.


EDIT: dont even know whether Depone was specifically referring to flex time...

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by tripwire22 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:06 am

this beat isnt that hard?

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by jolly wailer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:25 am

seriously :?


cowbell on

1 _ and a _ _ and 3 e _ _ 4 _ _ a 1 _ and a _ _ and 3 e _ _ 4 _ _ _

^ those are sixteenths ( 1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a )


shuffley 16th note hats with varied velocity


sounds like two different bass drums (or just lots of velocity work) to have some grace note rolls into the louder main kick

on the 1 , the and of 4 , 2 of the next bar , the and of 4 on that 2nd bar

and a hitting snare on 3



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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by Depone » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:43 am

stappard wrote:
marshy wrote:
stappard wrote:
Depone wrote:
komanderkin wrote:there are also programs that let you convert audio to midi. check out protrig.
Logic does this also ;)

It does? :o So much I have to learn......
Is this just 9?

As far as I know flex time is exclusive to 9. I've only recently upgraded, not sat down and had a good look round at the intricacies yet though.


EDIT: dont even know whether Depone was specifically referring to flex time...
Wait, are you on about turning it into a new sampler instrument in the EXS24? or the option to take the audio, and detect its notes and convert them to midi, cause logic does this too, quite accurate actually with simple melodies. cant remember what its called, but it extracts harmonic info and makes it into midi for you.

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by green plan » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:42 am

SFlogic ninja does a tute about all that. Audio to midi/score, quite helpful really. And the cut to new audio file thing saved my life when I found it.

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by komanderkin » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:30 am

tripwire22 wrote:this beat isnt that hard?
lol, true that. :mrgreen:
my guess though is that the op is having less trouble with general timing of the hits and more trouble with the groove thats coming from offset notes and different velocities.

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Post by serox » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:50 am

DeadMath wrote:Hi

Im having trouble figuring the drum pattern out for this track. Im a big fan of Joker and hopefully going to see him at Cream fields. I need to re-create the beat for a quick track im doing at college. Im not being marked on the beat or anything I just want to put the beat into Logic then I'll customise it.

Thanks for any Help

DeadMath
What do u want to try and work out exactly?

It is all standard and quantized I think.

Kick and snare simple so will ignore that. He has something on 16ths that sounds a bit like a bell but could be 1 of a million drums in my percs folder. Its a simple pattern looped.
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Post by nowaysj » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:57 am

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by DeadMath » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:34 pm

komanderkin wrote:
tripwire22 wrote:this beat isnt that hard?
lol, true that. :mrgreen:
my guess though is that the op is having less trouble with general timing of the hits and more trouble with the groove thats coming from offset notes and different velocities.
yeah its exactly that. I can kind of get the basic parts of the beat down but the offset notes and varying velocities have completely thrown me.

thanks for the information about being able to convert the audio into midi/score I never knew that and it will come in handy in the future.

Thanks Alot All

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by DZA » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:36 pm

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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by Sharmaji » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:54 pm

isn't purple city the one w/ all the doumbek action in it?
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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by silkpantsman » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:06 pm

DZA wrote:
vulvavibration wrote:ableton too
Explain...
ableton has slice to midi function

heres a nice vid for work flow ideas on how to get copy beats its helped me extract alot of complex beats accurately...the vid is about triplets and its ableton but its more the work flow :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRe4P8Mu ... r_embedded
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Re: Joker - Purple City Drumming

Post by jolly wailer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:58 pm

Sharmaji wrote:isn't purple city the one w/ all the doumbek action in it?

yeah it is a doumbek huh? kinda sounds like a drum machine cowbell shot
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