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What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by Japanese » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:47 am

Sorry for the (Read this) part, seems like so ones on this forum i need some bodies attention. Anyways so i found out about dubstep 2 weeks ago and i am addicted, with my personality i naturally wanted to start producing, but im only 14 and because of money i had to get cracked copied of fl studio and massive. Whenever i open massive i cant hear a thing, no sound comes out of it. it very strange and FL studio is too hard to understand at such a low level. Anyone recommend a great program to start producing dubstep/DnB. Or can someone gimme some overall help by downloading Team viewer which allows u too see someone elses desktop and control it. So they can teach them stuff. Long story short i need some help!!!!


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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by Phigure » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:52 am

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by Japanese » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:52 am

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Been there done that. I am not patient and i want some advice from the pros.

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by nowaysj » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:05 am

Here is some advice from a pro:

I hope your virus/malware defs are up to date, as it is likely every keystroke you type is being sent to some server somewhere to be analyzed for passwords, personally identifiable information and financial information. Good luck with that.

Futures Untold has a freeware studio available which will give you all the software you need to produce anything that you've heard from any released dubstep producer.

The center of this studio is Reaper, a full featured daw, that gives you a fully functional trial period where you don't have to pay.

Uninstall your cracks (if you can), find this freeware studio, and download it. Then just start learning Reaper. No other synths, no nothing. You're not going to produce anything that anyone would want to listen to for a long time, so get that out of your head, just start learning. There are tutorial videos to get you started, as well as a forum to ask well thought out, researched questions. Once you learn how to move around in reaper, try one of the freeware synths. They can produce sounds just as good as Massive.

The music that you heard and liked so much is the result of YEARS AND YEARS of careful study. Be prepared to work very hard for very long. I know when you think 'long' when you're fourteen, that it's like a week. But there are many people here who have been producing longer than you have been alive. This will take a long time.

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by Basic A » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:35 am

The demo has everything you need to make tunes I promise. Be honest, fellow FL Studio owners...

Now that youve bought it, you, like me, still have this addiction to audio clips and stems. You spend all that time using them as a workaround, they become the way, lmfao.

But. Yeah man, dont use cracks, is BAD and besides 99% of the time they dont work properly at all :u:

Start trying to assemble a tune, learn to use clips and the playlist, and learn to route signals through the mixer. Get to grips with the playlist, and use the default synths to start, as they produce extraordinary sound, and are very universal as far as synths go. Once you get to where you have big ideas you want to save, your going to want to buy the software or get to learning workarounds, but thats neither hear or there, point is... FL might as well be fully functional as a Demo. And its in class as one of the more professional DAWs out there... it has some flaws as all DAWs do, but it is also pretty seemless to go from FL onto other programs when you need too.

Reaper is your next option, and a different route. Reaper is an amzingly powerful DAW as well, and its (sorta) free... Futures (noways referenced it) put together a beautiful studio package that Id recomend you just as much as I would FL.

Its just little differences in workflow man, but the concepts are all gonna be the same. FLs demo is basically functional. Ask anyone who owns it. We used to cheat, all of us, bet most are still using audio stems.
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by nowaysj » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:58 am

Bought it in 99, never cheated. :lol:
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by futures_untold » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:53 am

It helps to read the manual of which ever software you decide to use.

If you don't understand a word, google it and more often than not, there will be a wikipedia entry for the term.

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Start by learning how the sequencer works with samples.

Next learn how to insert effects.

Learn how to automate the controls on an effect too.

Finally, dig out some freeware synths and start learning about the controls available on the synth (by reading the manual and practicing).

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You can download the software package from the link in my signature strip.

Happy music making! 8)

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by Ongelegen » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:02 am

Japanese wrote:I am not patient
Then producing is not for you. Many years of just practising are necessary if want to make decent music.

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by symmetricalsounds » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:46 am

Project EX wrote:
Japanese wrote:I am not patient
Then producing is not for you. Many years of just practising are necessary if want to make decent music.
This.

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:47 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:
Project EX wrote:
Japanese wrote:I am not patient
Then producing is not for you. Many years of just practising are necessary if want to make decent music.
This.
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by kejk » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:01 pm

deadly habit wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:
Project EX wrote:
Japanese wrote:I am not patient
Then producing is not for you. Many years of just practising are necessary if want to make decent music.
This.
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by DZA » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:02 pm

Wtf has age gotta do with anything

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:06 pm

DZA wrote:Wtf has age gotta do with anything

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i'm 12 and what is this?

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by legend4ry » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:24 pm

kejk wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:
Project EX wrote:
Japanese wrote:I am not patient
Then producing is not for you. Many years of just practising are necessary if want to make decent music.
This.
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What ever five is..

90% of people who make music, not even electronic music are pretty geeky and have hermit-like qualities...

If you just wanna make sick beats from day dot, then you might as well save up and hire and engineer to do the work for you.

Goldie does it, so you could make a living from it :P
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by nowaysj » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:28 pm

DZA wrote:Wtf has age gotta do with anything

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Age has a lot to do with everything.
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by back2onett » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:10 pm

nowaysj wrote:
DZA wrote:Wtf has age gotta do with anything

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Age has a lot to do with everything.
I'd like to say it doesn't... but it does unfortunately
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by BananaBomber » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:21 pm

deadly habit wrote:
DZA wrote:Wtf has age gotta do with anything

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i'm 12 and what is this?
im 1 and what is this!

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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by SunkLo » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:45 pm

Another plus one on the patience bit. Learn to be patient in every aspect of life and it will help you out more than you can imagine. You're not going to get anywhere fast with making music, you have to take your time and put in the work.

I also made the migration from FL to Reaper and I find Reaper more straightforward. There isn't a bunch of different windows to pop up and keep track of. There's only one kind of track so you don't have to worry about midi vs audio vs aux vs sends blah blah (although it's probably helpful to understand these terms so you can converse easily with other engineers) It's also more of a standard design similar to Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic etc. so it'll be easier to translate your skills to other programs.
There's not as many "OMGs how 2m ake fat pro dbustep beets" tutorials as other programs but the manual explains everything very well. You'll have to play around with it for a while to get the knack of things and you'll want to supplement the manual with some articles on general techniques of production (SoundOnSound, Dubstep Forum Production Bible, etc.)

Also I wouldn't be asking people you don't know on the internet to take control of your computer, no matter how benevolent they seem.
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Re: What Program to use? (Read this)

Post by futures_untold » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:47 pm

SunkLo wrote:Another plus one on the patience bit. Learn to be patient in every aspect of life and it will help you out more than you can imagine. You're not going to get anywhere fast with making music, you have to take your time and put in the work.

I also made the migration from FL to Reaper and I find Reaper more straightforward. There isn't a bunch of different windows to pop up and keep track of. There's only one kind of track so you don't have to worry about midi vs audio vs aux vs sends blah blah (although it's probably helpful to understand these terms so you can converse easily with other engineers) It's also more of a standard design similar to Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic etc. so it'll be easier to translate your skills to other programs.
There's not as many "OMGs how 2m ake fat pro dbustep beets" tutorials as other programs but the manual explains everything very well. You'll have to play around with it for a while to get the knack of things and you'll want to supplement the manual with some articles on general techniques of production (SoundOnSound, Dubstep Forum Production Bible, etc.)

Also I wouldn't be asking people you don't know on the internet to take control of your computer, no matter how benevolent they seem.
Good advice and lol at the last sentence :)

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