Government tricks

[Milky Pirate]

Been reading World War Z today, epic book, a must read.. The things they discuss in the book seem so real..

Basically, say you were in a recession, you could earn the money back by making up a fake illness, (such as the zombie flu, in the book, but only in the book its real) and pay a medicinal company to sell a placebo vaccine to the illness so everyone would think they are safe.. and for the media; the government could give them money to publicise the mystery illness and say its been killing thousands of people and such.. then the original company could make other products like air spray and hand sanitizers and such.. just a thought.

The government must be doing shit like this.. what do you think? they can't earn much just by reducing peoples pay by a couple of quid..

[AntlionUK]

that book is fucking quality. max brooks is the don.

[Milky Pirate]

Yeah I know, I will be buying the zombie survival guide seeing as this is so good..

[hackman]

more or less
instead of made up diseases, they make you take vaccinations against diseases you're never going to get

and instead of placebo vaccines, they fill them with all kinds of shit, leading to autism, and other complications

and yeah, they wouldn't need to pay the media to hype up the disease, cos the same people who own the media are best pals with the owners of the pharmaceutical companies

problem reaction solution

[HRKRT]

i remember my mate telling me this was what swine flu was.

dont know whether thats true or not, but either way the govenments bought far too much vaccine and the pharmaceutical companies made bare.

[AntlionUK]

Yeah I know, I will be buying the zombie survival guide seeing as this is so good..

yeah man, also check out the graphic novel http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Survival-G ... 030740577X

[Milky Pirate]

The government own all the pharmaceutical companies anyway, so either way, the government are forking out money just to get it back again, with interest.
as for that graphic novel, looks great, ill get that as well

[ashley]

I didn't pay for my Tamiflu so I don't know who here is actually making any money from it, let a lone a profit - other than the company who made the drug in the first place.

[ashley]

But what I am scared about is RFID's inside vaccines that we don't know about.

[hackman]

^^ and the moves towards making vaccinations mandatory...

[Milky Pirate]

they're building a fucking army of zombies!
nah this shit might acctually help against biological warfare though, anyone ever heard of vlad the impaler (the original dracula)
he sent a group of people suffering from the most disgusting diseases into the Turkish camps. (the people he was at war with) and killed them all without wasting any resources, other than people that were going to die soon anyway!
....discuss

[symmetricalsounds]

more or less
instead of made up diseases, they make you take vaccinations against diseases you're never going to get

and instead of placebo vaccines, they fill them with all kinds of shit, leading to autism, and other complications

that is fucking bullshit and dangerous shit to spread, because of that one study done that has been discredited and the doctor struck off because he was such a dodgy fuck you have people taking it seriously and not getting their kids immunised. there is a reason you never know anyone with polio because we have had a immunisation program and practically managed to get rid of it.

don't believe the bullshit, get your kids immunised.

[hackman]

more or less
instead of made up diseases, they make you take vaccinations against diseases you're never going to get

and instead of placebo vaccines, they fill them with all kinds of shit, leading to autism, and other complications

that is fucking bullshit and dangerous shit to spread, because of that one study done that has been discredited and the doctor struck off because he was such a dodgy fuck you have people taking it seriously and not getting their kids immunised. there is a reason you never know anyone with polio because we have had a immunisation program and practically managed to get rid of it.

don't believe the bullshit, get your kids immunised.

you're so misinformed it's unbelievable

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/kent.html

Six New England states reported increases in polio one year after the Salk vaccine was introduced, ranging from more than doubling in Vermont to Massachusetts’ astounding increase of 642%; other states reported increases as well. The incidence in Wisconsin increased by a factor of five. Idaho and Utah actually halted vaccination due to the increased incidence and death rate. In 1959, 77.5% of Massachusetts’ paralytic cases had received 3 doses of IPV (injected polio vaccine). During 1962 U.S. Congressional hearings, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, head of the Dept. of Biostatistics for the University of North Carolina School of Public Health, testified that not only did the cases of polio increase substantially after mandatory vaccinations—a 50% increase from 1957 to 1958, and an 80% increase from 1958 to 1959—but that the statistics were deliberately manipulated by the Public Health Service to give the opposite impression.(52) It is important to understand that the polio vaccine was not universally accepted, at least initially. Despite this, polio declined both in European countries that refused mass vaccination as well as in those that employed it.

According to researcher-author Dr. Viera Scheibner, 90% of polio cases were eliminated from statistics by health authorities’ redefinition of the disease when the vaccine was introduced, while in reality the Salk vaccine was continuing to cause paralytic polio in several countries at a time when there were no epidemics being caused by the wild virus. For example, cases of viral and aseptic meningitis, which have symptoms similar to polio, were routinely diagnosed and recorded as polio before the vaccine, but were distinguished and removed from polio statistics after the vaccine. Also, the number of cases needed to declare an epidemic was raised from 20 to 35, and the requirement for inclusion in paralysis statistics was changed from symptoms that lasted for 24 hours to symptoms lasting 60 days (many polio victims’ paralysis was temporary). It is no wonder that polio decreased radically after vaccines—at least on paper. In 1985, the CDC reported that 87% of the cases of polio in the U.S. between 1973 and 1983 were caused by the vaccine, and later declared that all but a few imported cases since were caused by the vaccine—and most of the imported cases occurred in fully vaccinated individuals.

Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine. At a workshop on polio vaccines sponsored by the Institute of Medicine and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Samuel Katz of Duke University cited the estimated 8-10 annual U.S. cases of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) in people who have taken the oral polio vaccine, and the [four year] absence of wild polio from the western hemisphere. Jessica Scheer of the National Rehabilitation Hospital Research Center in Washington, D.C., pointed out that most parents are unaware that polio vaccination in this country entails "a small number of human sacrifices each year." Compounding this contradiction are low adverse event reporting and the NVIC’s experiences with confirming and correcting misdiagnoses of vaccine reactions, which suggest that the actual number of VAPP "sacrifices" may be 10 to 100 times higher than that cited by the CDC. For these reasons, the live polio virus is no longer in widespread use.

To be sure, polio as it was known in the first half of the 20th century does not exist today. However, declines following polio peaks in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s had been underway again for a period of years by the time the vaccine was introduced.

[hackman]

you should become a spokesperson for the polio vaccine, since you know so much about it

[symmetricalsounds]

it was the mmr vaccine that was linked to autism and proved to be bullshit

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/ ... struck-off

[ashley]

it was the mmr vaccine that was linked to autism and proved to be bullshit

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/ ... struck-off

I think that's if they were only used together right?

[hackman]

of course it was "proved" to be bullshit
if it wasn't, the pharma companies would have a few billion less a year

i remember at primary school being the only kid in the whole school not to have the MMR vaccine
big up mummy

i'm just getting some info for you

[symmetricalsounds]

also your earlier evidence is from yank, and well the health system is a whole lot more fucked up in america than it is in the u.k.

hope you never actually get any of the diseases you're happy about not being protected against.

[AntlionUK]

this is why i never take medication when i'm ill. I only ever take medication if it's my only option, like when i got the clap lol

[hackman]

hope you never actually get any of the diseases you're happy about not being protected against.

oh i take protection, i'm just not stupid enough to think vaccination is the answer