I'm new here... Quick Easy bass sound question :)

[MikkiFunk]

Hello all! My first posting, just a bit about meself before I get to it. Initally a soulful/ funky/ deep House producer, but also make heavily 90's influenced Garage tracks (you'll know what I mean when you hear them) and bits of 2Step too. Whatever I feel like really or whatever vibe best fits a remix and so on. Don't really like to pigeonhole my garage too much but some of the more recent stuff sounds a bit similar to Future Garage people have said. I like to use elements from different genres anyway so like to put bits of dubstep, trance, soul, anything!! into my tracks... Feel free to check my tracks out anyway SO....

Going to start a remix of a progressive house track tomorrow when I get in the lab. The remix is going to be on a 2Step, slightly dubstep-ish vibe, nice deep warm pads and synths, driving arpeggios etc etc. Got an idea for a bass sound which I've heard on a synkro tune but not at my mac right now so cant even mess around with it in Logic. Its just a simple sub bass with a LPF on it, I think it might be a sine and a square or pulse wave or possibly just the one pulse wave, with some subtle LFO rate modulation by the sound of it, I cant be too sure though as cant put my finger on it! Here it is anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntwu7eOtwCY

Any tips on making this in the ES2 would be great! I'm not too bad at synthesis but not much at making bass synths I must say lol, coming from House & Garage its usually live bass for me or a simple bass sound. Something I need to brush up on really!

Thanks

[BananaBomber]

LOWPASSED REESSES !!!! WITH SOME CHORUS AND TAPE SATURATION

GET 3 SQUARE WAVES

DETUNE ONE TO -24.00

ONE TO -24.13 (EXAMPLE)

AND ONE TO SAY -23.94(EXAMPLE)

THEN RUN IT THROUGH A LOWPASS FILTER ADJUST CUT OFF TO TASTE

ADD A LITTLE CHORUS

AND SOME TAPE SATURATION TO WARM IT UP A BIT

[yamaz]

Am I missing something here? The sound I get from that is close but there's a sort of wobble or detuning that sounds tighter more crisp in that subby bass?

[MikkiFunk]

The slight 'wobble' is all in the usage of 3 oscillators at slightly different frequencies, I think. It introduces the occurrence of 'beats' which is basically when 2 frequencies are slightly higher or lower than eachother > therefore, their waveforms are slightly longer or shorter than eachother, so they start off in time and in phase and gradually go out of time and phase with eachother, then come back in time and phase with eachother. Whats happening as a result of this is you're getting alternating constructive and destructive interference which is making the sound 'flutter'. If they were all the same waveforms at the same frequencies they would just interfere with eachother constructively and sound like one, much louder wave.


...SOOO, make sure you have the other 2 oscillators slightly tuned up or down to get that wobble. Not sure why you wouldn't want the wobble on the sound, it sounds too static and boring without it, its a nice subtle touch.