James R Bath?

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:05 pm

One mysterious dude, can anyone work out what happened back there? Parson, I'm looking at you!

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:46 pm

I'm fascinated yet with a reluctance to ask what the fuck you're talking about.

parson · Post by **parson** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:09 pm

James R. Bath
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James Reynolds Bath was a former director of Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), and part owner of Arbusto Energy with George W. Bush, with whom Bath served as a member of the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War. Like Bush, Bath was suspended from flying status in 1972 for failing to accomplish his annual medical examination.

Bath got his start in real estate in 1973 by forming a partnership with Lloyd Bentsen's son, Lan, in Bath Bentsen Interests.

It has been reported that, in 1976, George H. W. Bush recruited Bath into the CIA [citation needed], a claim that Bath denied in 1991 in an article published in Time magazine.

In 1976 Bath purchased the Houston Gulf Airport on behalf of Salem bin Laden, a Saudi sheik (and Osama bin Laden's older half-brother.) That year, Bath became the bin Laden family's representative in North America[1]. In 1990, a Saudi banker named Khalid bin Mahfouz procured a loan of $1.4 million for Bath, allowing him to buy a stake in the airport. When Salem bin Laden died in 1988, his interest in the airfield passed to Mahfouz.

In 1978, Bath became a Director of the Main Bank, based in Houston, Texas. His fellow investors were John Connally; Saudi financier Ghaith Pharaon; and Mahfouz. Also at this time, he founded JB&A Aviation, a corporate aviation brokerage firm, along with fellow businessmen Johnson Taylor and Jerry Smith.

In 1980, Bath was named company president of Cotopax Investments, registered in the Cayman Islands. The name was changed to Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd. The company board then resigned en masse, leaving Bath as a sole director. The company acted as a supplier of large passenger and air cargo jets. At one point, it leased a $10 million Gulfstream II jet to the Abu Dhabi National Oil Corporation, which was controlled by Sheikh Zayed, the late first president of the United Arab Emirates. Bath's partners in Skyway and his other companies are unknown.

Bath founded Southwest Airport Services to manage the Houston Gulf Airport, and to provide military fueling services at Ellington Field. He also served as president of the Skyway Aircraft Leasing company.

Bath's discharge from the National Guard and his relationships to the bin Laden family, the Bush family, and Arbusto were among the issues explored in Michael Moore's 2004 documentary film Fahrenheit 9/11, as well as his book Dude, Where's My Country? (released the same year.) Artist Mark Lombardi illustrated associations between Bath, the Bush family, the bin Laden family, and BCCI in drawings put on display in 2000 and now available in a book.[2]

[edit] References

1. ^ Salem Bath Trust agreement
2. ^ "Obsessive—Generous" - Toward a Diagram of Mark Lombardi by Frances Richard

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:31 pm

If he was in saddam hussein's political party he'd be james r ba'ath! geddit!!???!!

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:55 pm

paolo wrote:If he was in saddam hussein's political party he'd be james r ba'ath! geddit!!???!!

What you doing here dad?

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:13 pm

Yeah a few seconds after posting this I thought 'People say you become more like your parents as you age, and they might have a point.'

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:03 pm

Just glad to see everyone's taking this guy seriously

Even my dad's funnier than that!
Safe Parson, other peeps if you don't know...

My point was really; what must this guy know about how dodgy Bush is? this and the fact that he's the missing link between Bush and Bin Laden. The CIA basically got away with the accusation that Al Qaeda is a CIA invention that they funded from the eighties until the late nineties, and everyone thinks that theory is bollocks now, but the overwhelming evidence that Bush and Bin Laden's family were in a long term financial relationship is less easy to get rid of, and almost as difficult to explain, if the general public knew from the beginning that Bush and Bin laden were assosciates and not enemies how could they have got away with the invasion of Afghanistan?

p.s sorry about my continuing conpiracy nut vibe in O.T Ninjaland, I just can't leave it alone, to all the newbies Dubstep is NOT a conspiracy related genre of music!

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:39 pm

Wasn't the connection between Bush and the Bin Laden's purely down to oil though (Texas and Saudi Arabia both pretty good on that I believe). Not totally sure but I got the feeling Osama was the black sheep of the family, so it might not be that the rest of the family had any doings with him, but would have been flown out of the country due to his name and their's being connected and folks thinking there was a connection where there wasn't.

I mean, if my brother had stabbed some geezer and someone affected found out I was related, dare say I'd be up for a kicking too. Doesn't prove there's a conspiracy

obIwan wrote:p.s sorry about my continuing conpiracy nut vibe in O.T Ninjaland, I just can't leave it alone, to all the newbies Dubstep is NOT a conspiracy related genre of music!

Yeah, but that's exactly what you want us to think - TRUTH OBI, WE WANT TRUTH

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:06 pm

That's exactly my point, no one knows the truth, anything anyone says about the Bush family or 9/11 is working on pure hit and miss speculation, including all the journalists. Bin Laden denied the attacks, so could Bush have even made him a scapegoat because Osama wanted to mess up relations between the US and Saudi? Something the Bin laden family, Saudi royal family and American oil corporations would not have wanted.
Or was the WTC like a dodgy insurance scam on a massive scale with incriminating information about Bush and his cronies recorded there and conveniently destroyed? I'm not saying these are all that likely, but isn't the best way to find out the truth to run some alternative scenarios and try to disprove them?

The general point with this post was to draw attention to how much of dodgy businessman Bush was and is and to draw attention to one figure who certainly knows more about whether there is a conspiracy that will stop at nothing for power inside the Bush goverenment, than anyone on this forum. The BCCI scandal is typical of the type of venture Bush and his dad get involved in (they didn't that time) look at Enron and Bush's original venture Arbusto, which looked like a flop but must have made him money off the books somehow. I just know there is much more going on behind the scenes than most people imagine, Bush Srs ventures in Panama and Iran, as well as Bay of Pigs, Kennedy asassination etc certainly demand closer scrutiny.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:43 pm

Grandaddy Bush was selling arms to the sizan before Pearl Harbour if I remember rightly.

He probably does know some scandalous business, but the big money people of the world do operate in a twilight world of morality. Sort of like gangsters but with far greater influence. As an example, I've got a mate who has a mate that's a corporate lawyer - his company basically comes up with a business idea and he has to advise them on whether it's technically illegal or not, but sounds like there's quite a few areas of business that are already ahead of the law, where loopholes are there to be exploited.

I don't really see the need for mad conspiracies when big business and big government are in each others pocket to the extent they are. Just look at how much tax money is handed out to businesses to build factories, subsidise repairs to privatised industry (rail companies in the UK for example), ridiculous loans at low interest to build ultimately more expensive public services (most PFI schemes), and the massive tax loopholes that ahem...just happen to allow big companies to pay virtually no tax.

It's interesting that the idea of the free market - businesses succeeding or failing due to supply and demand - is pretty much a myth in this world. Tax is just a way of them getting money that you wouldn't voluntarily give them.

http://www.anxietyculture.com/freemarket.htm

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:26 pm

Vey true, it's almost like the conspiracy bit is the nice bit to face up to! The rest of whats really going on in day to day corporate circles is mundane but just as worrying!

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