Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

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Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by knell » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:31 am

In a world where skepticism overrides mysticism (in my mind, at least)...

how can you separate strange experiences from simply coincidence? is it my mind playing tricks on me, or is it something more?

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:57 am

Logic and reasoning while accepting that there are just greater things occurring we will just never understand.
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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by lloydnoise » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:26 am

the world is full of patterns, everyone interprets them differently but none are completely right or wrong. your mind isn't playing tricks on you, you just understand another way of seeing something, doesn't mean you shouldn't be grounded though.
I like to toy with those ideas but deep down it's all sitting on a substrate of logic, reason and rationality because that makes the more sense to me (in most situations :) )

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by hackman » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:04 pm

wherever the fuck you want
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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by d-T-r » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:09 pm

When you live your life with an appreciation of coincidences and their meanings, you connect with the underlying field of infinite possibilities
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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by qwaycee_ » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:30 pm

the human mind is too limited to ever grasp what's going on a far deeper and more significant level. i suppose people come close...but what i'm saying is that to me, while reason and logic are extremely useful to an extent, they basically serve as some sort of barrier. chalking every strange occurrence down to coincidence prevents us from looking at this on a larger scale and actually thinking of making connections between events we may have never made before. is it simply coincidence, or is there something actually going on here that we should be taking note of?

or does it mean that are experiences are in fact limited? we think that certain strange events occurring or reoccurring have meaning, but it could just mean that only so many situations and variations of situations can happen, therefore whatever happened was bound to happen anyway.


if that even makes sense.


but i'm still tripped out by deja vu...shits weird.

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by pikeymobile » Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:00 pm

You should definitely read the link I posted

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by 64hz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:41 pm

when im tripping i get syncronicities like mad, , like my thoughts synching up with music, things in the room, things people say, its fucking nuts sometimes.

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by 64hz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:50 pm

its like hypermeinhof

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:55 pm

If it's when you're tripping, that's naturally to be expected from the role dopamine plays in awareness and the role 'being high' plays on dopamine :W:

A lot of the time I tend to go with the attitude 'if life was different it'd still seem normal anyway'. To quote something from semi-yoof... The simpsons episode in which they contemplate having 5 instead of 4 fingers
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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by 64hz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:04 pm

BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:If it's when you're tripping, that's naturally to be expected from the role dopamine plays in awareness and the role 'being high' plays on dopamine :W:
can you please elucidate? whats all this bout dopamine?
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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:06 pm

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by WhosZena » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:08 pm

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by knell » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:41 pm

hahaha my computer needs a breathalyzer, dont remember making this thread :oops:

that being said, im glad i did it because these replies are awesome, thanks guys and gals

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by gargantuan » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:50 pm

coincidences are just connections we can't see/make
another one of those terms meant to give the frightening unknown a more friendly dimension, same as soul, god and other myths
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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by ketamine » Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:37 am

Well first of all "Insight" is just the Understanding of things, and how it truly is and relates to other things.

The more Insight you have into life, the more you realize the connection between things--which means somethings are neither Spooky Happenings, or Pure Coincidence. With "Insight" you could disern how (C) has happened, because (B) happened earlier, and before that (A).

"It always rains when my GF comes over!11 What is the Universe telling me???" With Insight, you may figure out that on cloudy days your GF feels lonely and seeks company, and rain generally accompanies cloudy days. It does not mean anything beyond that.

"Me and my best friend always wear the same colored shoes!!!OMG11" Insight will tell you, that, you obviously share something mentally similar with each other which is why you're drawn together as friends, BEST friends, to begin with. They understand your moods and feelings and humor. So when you wake up that day and see the sunny weather and think about the outdoor party you're going to that night, theres a good chance they're at home doing the same thing, their brains calculating the same info as you, and as the two of you are again, similar mentally, would arrive at wearing shoes, to lets face it, probably THE SAME PARTY. You are not connected via some 11th dimensional vortex or psychic powers, you two think a like, and shop alike, and feel alike when it comes to clothes.

Life = Causes and Consequences. Some sequences overlap to form Coincidence, but it need not be either extreme of Fate/Aliens vs Luck.

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by knell » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:21 am

love the input, and please keep it coming,

but my trouble lies within not knowing what is truly a coincidence, regardless of how strongly i feel to the contrary :/

there are so many factors that go into every experience, discerning mysticism (in this case, something supernatural/spiritual that is the only cause rather than my judgement) from random similarities is quite frustrating

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Re: Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

Post by ketamine » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:26 am

knell wrote:love the input, and please keep it coming,

but my trouble lies within not knowing what is truly a coincidence, regardless of how strongly i feel to the contrary :/

there are so many factors that go into every experience, discerning mysticism (in this case, something supernatural/spiritual that is the only cause rather than my judgement) from random similarities is quite frustrating
why don't you just flat out tell us what happened

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