Dubstep in a lull ?

intoccabile · Post by **intoccabile** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:21 am

Taken from Blackdown's blog ! ( http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/ )

" There's something odd in the garage air, i can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it's just personal over-saturation, but it feels like we might be in a mini lull. "

How can this be ? Does anyone else feel like dubstep is in a lull ?

Discuss !

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:24 am

Intoccabile wrote:Taken from Blackdown's blog ! ( http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/ )

" There's something odd in the garage air, i can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it's just personal over-saturation, but it feels like we might be in a mini lull. "

How can this be ? Does anyone else feel like dubstep is in a lull ?

Discuss !

? no way. barry lynn and toasty will save dubstep. trust.

intoccabile · Post by **intoccabile** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:28 am

Maybe what he meant by lull is that everything is beggining to sound the same ?

I say foreign producers will refresh dubstep !

More dubs from foreign producers being played by UK dj's would be like a cool summer breeze... different influences, production styles !

ghettobot · Post by **ghettobot** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:22 am

um, i don't think it's in a lull...
it doesn't really even sound samey to me yet!
rather, i am excited by the new shit! like "root" and "fallen"!
i hope it doesn't fall in the pit drum and bass did, with low quality u.s. productions and sameyness.

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:17 am

maybe the cost of pressing vinyl is holding back a lot of releases and full schedules by the established labels mean staggering the releases slowly over the coming months...

...so everyone is holding back when they should be flooding the market with mp3's on download sites

of course that would mean trying to take the music overground and losing the underground status and the eltitism of vinyl only dubplate culture...

... in the meantime I'd like to see live DJsets streaming from actual gigs in real time and pimped to a world of know nothing punters

the danger would always be more cheese and maybe negative mainstrem media feedback killing it, like garage...

...which would be so ironic cos dubstep is what was left after the buzz of 2step moved on

personally I don't hear much new in the grime scene that so solid, roll deep ,pay as u go were doing not so long ago anyway...

then again I'm not immersed in the culture and am 12 000 miles away so what do I know :shock:

...time to pull my head in

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:22 am

hmm i think this might just be a personal thing tho. Toasty and Barry Lynn are not my thing. i've been listening to 'fallen' (one of my records of the year) since july and 'root' for well over a year.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:29 am

the other thing is Forward>>. why do people now go home after the middle set?

there was a time when everyone stood holding their breath for hatcha to come on a 1am ... new school dubstep was born in those times.

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:27 am

Bhangra...get yourself down to a bhangra rave martin...i think it may blow your mind away...pure energy!! can get very moody tho...back in the days they used to be militant...sikhs are a tough/warrior type!!

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:29 am

question is: how do you un-lull dusbtep if it is in fact in a lull?

what do punters think can improve the scene?

i think throw the boat out to a variety of more people at fwd to start with...

distance, hotflush, s&d, vex'd, boxcutter etc for starters! you don't know what they could do to the place, they haven't even been given a chance!

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:37 am

Intoccabile wrote: I say foreign producers will refresh dubstep !

true

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:59 am

Spaceboy wrote:Bhangra...get yourself down to a bhangra rave martin...i think it may blow your mind away...pure energy!! can get very moody tho...back in the days they used to be militant...sikhs are a tough/warrior type!!

yeah, i'd love to, definitely.

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:27 am

From a UK only stance, I'd like to see more varied lineups reflecting the various facets of what I consider to be one scene - Toasty on the same bill as DMZ, Search & Destroy playing after Hatcha, you get the idea....

Most recordbuyers/club punters/fans of the music buy stuff from across the board at the moment, and for those that only have released tunes (vinyl/MP3) in their record bag are mixing all these styles together as well.

Certainly I like to mix it up, and I like to hear it mixed up as well.

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:33 am

ThinKing wrote:From a UK only stance, I'd like to see more varied lineups reflecting the various facets of what I consider to be one scene - Toasty on the same bill as DMZ, Search & Destroy playing after Hatcha, you get the idea....

Unfortunately the scene has become ludicrously factionalised.

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:48 am

Paulie wrote: Unfortunately the scene has become ludicrously factionalised.

like every other scene
it's a pity that this happend so fast

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:58 am

Well, it's taken 3 years or so.

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:04 am

Paulie wrote:Well, it's taken 3 years or so.

u can count labels on your fingers and ther are animosities - u should all meat and have some bottles of vodka

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:07 am

Ah, it's not that bad...

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:48 am

ThinKing wrote:From a UK only stance, I'd like to see more varied lineups reflecting the various facets of what I consider to be one scene - Toasty on the same bill as DMZ, Search & Destroy playing after Hatcha, you get the idea....

Most recordbuyers/club punters/fans of the music buy stuff from across the board at the moment, and for those that only have released tunes (vinyl/MP3) in their record bag are mixing all these styles together as well.

Certainly I like to mix it up, and I like to hear it mixed up as well.

do what you like bro but from a dubstep DJing point of view, historically all the big advances for me have come from purism and not fusion sets.

i wrote about this here: http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID ... 9096692720[/url]

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:55 am

Blackdown wrote:do what you like bro but from a dubstep DJing point of view, historically all the big advances for me have come from purism and not fusion sets.

Hence factionalisation, ridiculous sub-genres, general fragmentation of the scene and comparative paucity of "forward" movement.

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:00 am

Blackdown wrote: do what you like bro but from a dubstep DJing point of view, historically all the big advances for me have come from purism and not fusion sets.

but only in fusion there is a progress

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