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Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Rmut » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:39 am



Please consider that i need some practice, im not here to promote myself but to promote the way i do.
you should try :D

i think it could become a popular way to play, what do you think about?


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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Ldizzy » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:54 am

somebody needs to rent some old dmc tapes...

still fun to watch.
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Rmut » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:58 am

did you mean that i can see this on a dmc video? please tell me more about it..
i was thinking its a new way :(

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by wub » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:58 am

How have you acheieved this effect? Am I looking at some sort of circuit broken kit, or have you wired the MIDI controller parameters to trigger samples off of a laptop?

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Rmut » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:13 am

this could work with any midi devices.

i made this patch using maxforlive, you can find my patch here :
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=472

place this patch before a drumrack let you play drums with your cross-fader.
generate different notes for ascending or descending moves.
velocity could be fixed or controlled by the speed of the fader.

i also made a counter ;
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=516

for exemple you can see at 33' in the first video that i hit 6 times the snare ( top rigth of crossfader) and you dont hear 6 times a snare but it increment in a sequence. the sequence is reseted by the kick ( top left )

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by jikay » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:19 am

That's awesome!

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by briskisgoodforu » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:28 am

that was flippin sweet, just saying. I enjoyed that, and I like the vibes of the on the spot decisions. Tbh though I have no idea what you're actually doing.

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Rmut » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:45 am

@briski

basically, without the counter, the fader is just like this :
you can set the number of sample by fader, for example 5 : kick , clave, hihat, tom, snare- for left to right, and kick, ride, sub, clap, snare for right to left move

when you change fader position from a zone to another-one a note is trigged.
velocity depending by speed of the fader, in this demo when i play the snare quickly there is reverb.

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by nowaysj » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:13 am

Fucking dopeness.

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Mushroom Buttons » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:20 am

I tried something like this once by browsing my library with the arrow keys, lol. Needless to say your technique is 99x cooler!
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by press » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:21 pm

im actually very impressed, definitly continue to develope this technique from what i can see your onto something cool here. nice one.
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by DJ Crackle » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:24 pm

Mushroom Buttons wrote:I tried something like this once by browsing my library with the arrow keys, lol.

Hahahahaha


Can't watch this yet (at work), but it sounds fucking dope. I'm excited to get home and take a look :)

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by samkablaam » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:07 pm

Mushroom Buttons wrote:I tried something like this once by browsing my library with the arrow keys, lol. Needless to say your technique is 99x cooler!
ha. i do this everytime i browse my sample library.
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by nowaysj » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:07 am

^ seriously, I've spent a lot of time trying to recreate beats made with my browser...
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by mks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:41 am

Pretty cool, def keep on exploring that.

It is an old DJ technique though, rocking doubles, scratching the kick and snare, back to back cuts of lined up tracks etc.

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by samkablaam » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:49 am

mks wrote:Pretty cool, def keep on exploring that.

It is an old DJ technique though, rocking doubles, scratching the kick and snare, back to back cuts of lined up tracks etc.

EZ
this is different tho. its like midi triggering...

i think
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by mks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:59 am

Yeah, the crossfader beat juggling method: Been around for awhile.

The midi triggering with a crossfader using maxforlive: pretty cool! I would like to see where it goes.

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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by nowaysj » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:04 am

This doesn't appear to be beat juggling. This is triggering samples with fader position and speed. Which is dope dope dope.

I've now been thinking about how to do this outside of max. never mind fader speed, just fader zones.

But I've got a lot else on my feeble mind at the mo.
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by Mushroom Buttons » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:49 am

Don't think this is similar to beat juggling. Here the crossfader itself is the trigger. Really cool technique. Wonder what you can do with an X-Y pad using this max patch. :Q:
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Re: Play realtime beats with crossfader

Post by mks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:55 am

I feel ya. Sounds like a cool max patch.

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