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Mannyyyyy
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brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:39 pm

well the title says it all after me going through a rage quit phase i decided to make some drums but i searched up hi hat patterns and i get stuff for ambient type of dubstep but not for brostep. what kind of patterns do people usually use in mostly these new dancefloor hits. Half of the time you can barely hear them but is their certain patterns you guys use for just brostep?

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Nacklewicket » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:51 pm

just make some hihat lines that goes well with the beat!! no need to be specific to "brostep" to get som percussion flowing
for a very simple hihat line i usually do like this:

this is a beat
H-h-H-h-H-h-H-h

H = hihat at normal velocity
h = same hihat at very low velocity

and then i sometimes add a delay on it with lowest possible feedback and pretty low volume on that aswell

sounds pretty flowing that way
then just add more and different hihats to make things interesting
tambourines,rides(make sure to use them with care tho), shakers, rimshots,tablas,bongos, reversed hats... just go crazy

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:55 pm

i usually do something with kinda dnb sounding that i just do closed and open so for example it would look like

c-o-c-o-c-o but sometimes it sounds like theirs too much going on and i don't know if i should just stay with closed and rides and just delay but ill deffinetly use some shakers got some nice rex files for shakers i never used maybe they can work

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by EDN » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:09 am

Little glitchy mettalic sounding hits going in a sparse and then frenetic pattern.
I wouldn't necessarily use cymbals, just sounds of stuff hitting other stuff.
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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:12 am

EDN wrote:Little glitchy mettalic sounding hits going in a sparse and then frenetic pattern.
I wouldn't necessarily use cymbals, just sounds of stuff hitting other stuff.
when you say little metallic sounding hits would a closed hi hat do good?

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by EDN » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:18 am

Well yeah that is a mettalic sound but what I was trying to get at was more like "metal pole hits other metal pole" or similar.
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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:21 am

ohhh and mostly just make a small rhymthic pattern with a sample like that?

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by amphibian » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:23 am

The best kind of "brostep" percussion is imo, the ones that exaggerate the snare, that being - a hat or reversed hat just before the snare (but not all the time.

Also a shuffling hat style works pretty well, with some bars having no hats.

Remember that in brostep the kick and snare are very much the focus - having a powerful kick on 1 and snare on 3 is what gives it that moshing groove.

But most importantly, just listen to your fav tunes and try and mimic their percussion.
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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:30 am

i have somewhat of what type of percussion i want since i know in "brostep" most songs you can barely hear the hi hats but this song is a great example of what im after

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Sinisterbeats » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:46 am

the percussion in that tune is really very simple. Your best bet is to just find some decent samples, open up your daw and start writing some drums. Standard brostep tends to be kick on 1, snare on 3 so put those in and either program in some hats or play live and just jam some hat lines over it till you get something you like and hit record.

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:50 am

just one quick question since im using reason to program drums at the moment since its easiest for me should the hats i use cover each like step or no cause i heard from somewhere that each step sould be use so theirs no stoping but thats seems to be where i get to hit trouble

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Sinisterbeats » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:55 am

Mannyyyyy wrote:just one quick question since im using reason to program drums at the moment since its easiest for me should the hats i use cover each like step or no cause i heard from somewhere that each step sould be use so theirs no stoping but thats seems to be where i get to hit trouble
of course you dont have to every step, you can do what ever you like. Its your music, YOU have to write it. Use different velocitys and assuming your using redrum using the flam on some hits can sound nice.

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by sprayyypaint » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:56 am

to make it heavy just have on little closed hi hat in between the kick and snares. for example....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAw0uyBd5HY

so fucking heavy, keeping it nice and simple. make something people can fuckin step too!!
i mean you gotta vary it of course. but i love just the single little tap! haha
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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Mannyyyyy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:58 am

thanks for the advice everyone gonna try some them now :D

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by paravrais » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:07 am

There's like 2 or 3 'set' brostep drum beats that seem to be used in 94% of all brostep tunes. You've got the simple kick, snare with little to no hats combo (lazy gits), then theres the hats shuffle into snare one and lastly the ride on every off beat with lots of crashes whereever you can fit them.

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by amphibian » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:19 am

note the shuffling effect of the hats just before the snare, in that vid you posted. This is imo the most important part of the hats in brostep. It gives it a nice groove in something that would otherwise be a very boring beat.
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Re: brostep percussion

Post by hifi » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:48 am

Mannyyyyy wrote:well the title says it all after me going through a rage quit phase i decided to make some drums but i searched up hi hat patterns and i get stuff for ambient type of dubstep but not for brostep. what kind of patterns do people usually use in mostly these new dancefloor hits. Half of the time you can barely hear them but is their certain patterns you guys use for just brostep?

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take a listen to Rusko - Da Cali Anthem pretty sick beat. get some ideas there

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Sparxy » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:20 am

Mannyyyyy wrote:i usually do something with kinda dnb sounding that i just do closed and open so for example it would look like

c-o-c-o-c-o but sometimes it sounds like theirs too much going on and i don't know if i should just stay with closed and rides and just delay but ill deffinetly use some shakers got some nice rex files for shakers i never used maybe they can work
Look at some of Skream's tearout stuff for inspiraton here. He keeps his hats INCREDIBLY simple but they vary depending on bars. Have a listen to this (it's literally just a few closed hats with an open one before the snare, that sometimes varies depending on bar)



My advice - start simple, chop it up or vary it if it sounds boring

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by Depone » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:25 pm

Very subtle layering and swing... Dont underestimate the power of velocity to get some artificial swing too.

I literally have 4 midi tracks full of percussion, hats and rides. Layer them well, and they will sound like just one kit... Have a listen to my track gangsta shit on my soundcloud, I used like 5 layers, but it sounds like 1.

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Re: brostep percussion

Post by PERCEPT » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:28 pm

I had Skreams tearout stuff as an inspiration for the current track in my sig, especially the drums. Hi-Hats are one closed sample, one open sample, then a few rides and a little percussive hit, so not a lot. I played it all with my pads, even though i'm only using one closed hat sample, i've got 3 different instances of it each playing different patterns, with different velocities, panning etc.

If you want straight up brostep though, seems all you need is a ride on every beat.

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