samples vs. vst's / software instruments in production?

[NETTLES]

hi guys, so im new to this forum and was wondering how you prefer producing the sounds you want. the title says it all really, my question is, are you a sample and sound shaping kind of guy or a hardcore vst / software instrument user? and what do you think gives you the best results? personally making a sample end up sounding the way you want, for me gives you far better results / satisfaction and adds (in my opinion) a better dynamic overall to your work. but if your into vst / software instruments more, why do you prefer this and do you think it gives your track a better feel? obviously there's a load of producers out there who use both of the mentioned methods in there tunes, but in your opinion what do you favour? peace

[americansunrise]

Can't say I favor either, just gotta use whatever means necessary to get the sound you want, although there is something very satisfying about toying with parameters on a soft synth to get the exact sound you need.

[aeser]

software samplers (which most people use) are VST's/software instruments. i think you mean samplers vs. synths.

given a choice between the 2 i'd choose samplers as you can use synth samples but can't synthesize a breakbeat.

[hifi]

depends on the sound I may have to bounce what Im doin in my synth and bring it in my sampler to do some more work

[Ldizzy]

both

[Sinisterbeats]

both have there place. Personally I guess a prefer using synths, for stuff like pads and bass lines but for drums I always use samples. Actually the only things I really use samples for are drums and a few incidentals, and vox and the rare occasion I use them.

[Sinisterbeats]

both have there place. Personally I guess a prefer using synths, for stuff like pads and bass lines but for drums I always use samples. Actually the only things I really use samples for are drums and a few incidentals, and vox and the rare occasion I use them.

[terrible1fi]

like said it really depends but for a textured sound, its hard to beat a sample off an old vinyl record

[NETTLES]

i think you mean samplers vs. synths.

yeah thats essentially what i meant, thanks.

[AJGR]

synths

am i the only one who makes beats with synths?.

[Sinisterbeats]

synths

am i the only one who makes beats with synths?.

no

[JBE]

software samplers (which most people use) are VST's/software instruments. i think you mean samplers vs. synths.

given a choice between the 2 i'd choose samplers as you can use synth samples but can't synthesize a breakbeat.

That's not true. You can synthesize a breakbeat. If you've ever used massive, their step performer thing is perfect for using your synth to create beats. As a matter of fact there's a few presets that come with massive that are in fact breakbeats. Essentialy you can do it with other synths as well it will just require a lot of manual automation to get the same result. I wish more synths would take a queue from NI and make synths more beat friendly.

Overally I probably use my sampler more than my instruments now. I do a lot of resampling so without my sampler I would lose a big portion of how I work. I prefer working with audio files over synth patterns when I actually begin working on a project.

[Ldizzy]

i see this thread becoming more and more useless...

move away from it :'( pals

[nowaysj]

Fuck that, I'll go take a bath in reactor 4. I don't give a fuck.

I say use whatever works for you to make music you're happy with. Personally, I don't see an either or. Sampler on the left hand, synth on the right, give'em the old one two.

[Susceptor]

Both, but I prefer synths over sampling (at the moment at least).

[Sirius]

it depends on what your making.

recording ya own samples is the key,

I feel that softsynths aren't quite there yet.

I want more dynamics & colour!

BUT... midi is just so easy & thru constant tweaking, it can sound real

!!chea

[melodium747]

I think it just has to do with the situation. Use whatever feels right for the song

[aeser]

software samplers (which most people use) are VST's/software instruments. i think you mean samplers vs. synths.

given a choice between the 2 i'd choose samplers as you can use synth samples but can't synthesize a breakbeat.

That's not true. You can synthesize a breakbeat.

a breakbeat by definition is a live drum recording usually from a record which is sampled and chopped and or looped. you can make beats with synths but you cannot create breakbeats.

[Ldizzy]

thread might be the least negative and aggressive outcome to a trollish post ever...

[wub]

software samplers (which most people use) are VST's/software instruments. i think you mean samplers vs. synths.

given a choice between the 2 i'd choose samplers as you can use synth samples but can't synthesize a breakbeat.

That's not true. You can synthesize a breakbeat.

a breakbeat by definition is a live drum recording usually from a record which is sampled and chopped and or looped. you can make beats with synths but you cannot create breakbeats.

What if you sampled and chopped or looped a live synth recording in the same way though?