SP:MC Bass

[ENNO]

The bass in the tune is just out of this world. The kick really helps it but its not like a normal pure sine wave subb. Would it be layered?

Would love some insight on this!

[Depone]

Thats his trademark bass really, not sure how hes made it, but to me some of it sounds like saturated 808 basses. Love each and every one of his tracks.

[hasezwei]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

[serox]

Its what you said it is! You can get this with a single sine oscillator with some light overdrive with a filter on it. It does sound like it has some movement/automation on it. Very similar to the bass in all of his tracks tbh!

A sine with dist is the core but I would also like to know the final touches he does to make it sound unique.

[serox]

Thats his trademark bass really, not sure how hes made it, but to me some of it sounds like saturated 808 basses. Love each and every one of his tracks.

Yep. Other have sounded more like straight up 808s than this. He does something to the bass that makes it 'his' sound. I dont have the knowledge or ears to tell you what that is tho right now.

It might just be the type of distortion he uses. But what he does to make it sound different, who knows....

[serox]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

sounds worth a go. Phase modulation, hmmm, not something I ever do!

[hasezwei]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

sounds worth a go. Phase modulation, hmmm, not something I ever do!

i started using it when someone posted the flux pavilion dentist drill of death patch (the one in his remix of gold dust), it's based solely on phase mod. it's nice for electro basslines, but i only do that stuff when i'm chilling with my friends who are into that shit

as for that SP:MC sound, now that i've figured out how to do it i'm hesitating to work more on it. it's his sound (and the other guys in that vein: youngsta, joker d, icicle etc) and trying to bite it won't be good for anyone.

[serox]

i started using it when someone posted the flux pavilion dentist drill of death patch (the one in his remix of gold dust), it's based solely on phase mod. it's nice for electro basslines, but i only do that stuff when i'm chilling with my friends who are into that shit

as for that SP:MC sound, now that i've figured out how to do it i'm hesitating to work more on it. it's his sound (and the other guys in that vein: youngsta, joker d, icicle etc) and trying to bite it won't be good for anyone.

Dont be shy. I love what them lot make and play so I am often wasted days playing with sounds trying to work their shit out.

Its hard to come up with a sound that is 100% original now days so dont worry about biting

Anyway, were on a forum and ur not releasing a new album promoting ur fresh sound so its all good.

Was it just how you said to make it? Ill have a play with Massive again later, sounds good.

[hasezwei]

well it's quite hard to find a sweet spot so it doesn't sound too bell-like. i notched out some of the harmonics with a graphic eq, but that only works for one note obviously. then i added subtle tube saturation, got me some okayish results. the most important part is the movement, both for the amp and the phase mod itself.

[serox]

well it's quite hard to find a sweet spot so it doesn't sound too bell-like. i notched out some of the harmonics with a graphic eq, but that only works for one note obviously. then i added subtle tube saturation, got me some okayish results. the most important part is the movement, both for the amp and the phase mod itself.

That is the important bit to make it sound right imo. Not sure what you are doing with the amp tho? I will give it a go later when I get home.

[hasezwei]

amp envelope. its just my approach, not the only way to do it of course. when i was asking for that sound in the thread i found the phasemod advice i tried copying this bassline:

and instead of using an lfo on a filter i just gave the amp envelope some attack, lowered the sustain and played the single wubs by hand, giving it some kind of swing. it's not the way it's done in the track but i liked it more that way.

[serox]

Never heard that LX guy before. Thats got to be MC SP tho right? thats his bassline...

I will msg u when I get home. Could maybe do something...

[hasezwei]

it's joker D's new alias

edit: but as the above mentioned guys are all collaborating with each other and in general seem to be buddies it's no wonder they have similar basslines. it's like a team-effort in exploring the possibilities of a sound one of them created.


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[serox]

it's joker D's new alias

edit: but as the above mentioned guys are all collaborating with each other and in general seem to be buddies it's no wonder they have similar basslines. it's like a team-effort in exploring the possibilities of a sound one of them created.


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Ah its him. Yeh he made some tracks with SP MC so no doubt he showed him out to do it. Like a lot of big name producers as it goes! not everyone spends years playing with the buttons. They get shown very very good tricks and go from there!

[Steve_French]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

heheheh that was me, i'll post a patch if anyones interested ?

you can also achieve the sound in reason using a filter to.

essentially, there are LOADS of ways of gettin the sound, its just practice i suppose

[hasezwei]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

heheheh that was me, i'll post a patch if anyones interested ?

you can also achieve the sound in reason using a filter to.

essentially, there are LOADS of ways of gettin the sound, its just practice i suppose

reason combinator screenshot pls?

[Steve_French]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

heheheh that was me, i'll post a patch if anyones interested ?

you can also achieve the sound in reason using a filter to.

essentially, there are LOADS of ways of gettin the sound, its just practice i suppose

reason combinator screenshot pls?

http://www.mediafire.com/?98fz3gg19ee6gg8

.rns, they could be better, but thats your job, not up to me how they sound, use your brain

[serox]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

heheheh that was me, i'll post a patch if anyones interested ?

you can also achieve the sound in reason using a filter to.

essentially, there are LOADS of ways of gettin the sound, its just practice i suppose

reason combinator screenshot pls?

http://www.mediafire.com/?98fz3gg19ee6gg8

.rns, they could be better, but thats your job, not up to me how they sound, use your brain

Id be interesting in seeing this please. Any chance you could upload a r4 version?

[ENNO]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

heheheh that was me, i'll post a patch if anyones interested ?

you can also achieve the sound in reason using a filter to.

essentially, there are LOADS of ways of gettin the sound, its just practice i suppose

Would you mind posting the massive patch please?

[serox]

someone explained it in massive recently, just a sine with "phase modulation", play around with the parameters and semitone setting. attach an envelope to the intensity to get things moving, from there it's up to you how you process it, this is just a starting point.

if you don't use massive, sine with just a little fm.

or maybe just saturate it like depone said, anything goes as long as you use a sine as the starting point and add subtle harmonics.

heheheh that was me, i'll post a patch if anyones interested ?

you can also achieve the sound in reason using a filter to.

essentially, there are LOADS of ways of gettin the sound, its just practice i suppose

Would you mind posting the massive patch please?

I think he said Reason. A screenshot of the set up would help give us the right idea.