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juju · Post by **juju** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:41 pm

I know a year ago people were skeptical of D&B punters stepping over to the Dubstep side... I had so many people give me a hard time saying that it was just a phase and basically just shutting me out because I come from D&B background... eventhough I came from D&B, everyone knows my true love and background is Dub but thats another story. anyhows, I have been getting tons and tons of emails and messages like the one below and though i would share...

I think the introduction of new poeple to dub / dubstep is crucial for the survival and growth of what we are doing. its everywhere now!

this shit made me smile.. i know its a bit cheesy to post tins like this but fuck it... who feels it knows it.

ju

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letter from NZ,

"""just wanted to drop u line line to say that the dubsteb scene has been growing here in christchurch NZ for awhile now, with a few of our biggest local DNB djs starting to play dubstep instead (most of them good friends of mine).

i havent really been feeling dubstep at all, found it quite boring (i mix dnb myself), but i heard a mix from you a couple of days ago and that all changed..

i went down to the record store today and bought up all the tunes of yours they had in stock.. could be the start of a new era for me!

so just wanted to say respect bro, keep up the good work your tunes are putting me in the best musical place i've been in a long time. truth.

will be keeping a close eye on all your future releases for sure. peace. """""

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:28 pm

nice
but people should just add it to more music to make/listen too

breakage · Post by **breakage** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:34 pm

feasible_weasel wrote:
nice
but people should just add it to more music to make/listen too

yup... just shows how close minded some people can be... it's happened to loads of mates of mine over the last couple of years....

"dubstep... nah, that shits boring"

"dustep? whats that, don't really like the sound of it (so i won't even bother)"

"dubstep?? nah... i heard ONE TUNE and didn't like it"

"DUBSTEP... too many people like it so i'm gonna be cool and not like it"

FFS!!! OPEN YER BLOODY EARS/ MINDS!!!

rant over.

parson · Post by **parson** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:38 pm

and on the other side there's people gettin shit like

THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DUBSTEP

THAT SOUNDS TOO MUCH LIKE DNB

ITS GOOD BUT NOT REALLY DUBSTEP

YOU JUST TOOK AN OLD DNB TUNE AND SLOWED IT DOWN

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:19 pm

i could give two fucks about what "scene" people come from to dubstep, as long as they listen with an open mind and don't stand in my way when the bassline hits.

diablo · Post by **diablo** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:27 pm

sapphic_beats wrote:i could give two fucks about what "scene" people come from to dubstep, as long as they listen with an open mind and don't stand in my way when the bassline hits.

Go Shiva!!!!!!!

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:27 pm

breakage wrote:
feasible_weasel wrote:
nice
but people should just add it to more music to make/listen too
yup... just shows how close minded some people can be... it's happened to loads of mates of mine over the last couple of years....

"dubstep... nah, that shits boring"

"dustep? whats that, don't really like the sound of it (so i won't even bother)"

"dubstep?? nah... i heard ONE TUNE and didn't like it"

"DUBSTEP... too many people like it so i'm gonna be cool and not like it"

FFS!!! OPEN YER BLOODY EARS/ MINDS!!!

rant over.

indeed

if u accept it as modern reggae dubs and enjoy what its trying to do,its all good.

ytee · Post by **ytee** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:32 pm

Juju's drums are so tight...that is all.

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:16 pm

Juju - that drunken BBQ mix is Siiiiiiick! and if thats the mix he was talking about, I have to say that its already converted a few of my dnb head friends down here in LA, and a few reggae cats too. Just keep bangin em out, the people who should will come around...

And props for the Don Carlos track - "all respect due, to the man-god Juju..." - HUGE!

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:26 pm

It was JuJu (your) aug 06 dubstep mix, which got me into dubstep mate. Other than Skream i didnt know too much, but that mix opend my mind to a different style of Dubstep i was feeling much more, and i have pretty much copped all the tracks mixed up in that 45 min mix. Props.

anyway enough arse licking, Its good people come from all over the palce, brings more to the scene.

juju · Post by **juju** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:09 pm

kidlogic wrote:Juju - that drunken BBQ mix is Siiiiiiick! and if thats the mix he was talking about, I have to say that its already converted a few of my dnb head friends down here in LA, and a few reggae cats too. Just keep bangin em out, the people who should will come around...

And props for the Don Carlos track - <b>"all respect due, to the man-god Juju...</b>" - HUGE!

big up thx

"all respect due, to the man-called Juju..." :]

djunya · Post by **djunya** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:30 pm

Narco.Hitzz Home!!!

Big up JUJU -Your tunes have always had the percussive,dubby,raw,roots, vibe i look for in music from DnB to Dubstep - you have always brought quality sounds & styles!! Much respect!!
The Don Carlos ting is MASSIVE!!! Mad Props!!

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:32 pm

juju wrote:
kidlogic wrote:Juju - that drunken BBQ mix is Siiiiiiick! and if thats the mix he was talking about, I have to say that its already converted a few of my dnb head friends down here in LA, and a few reggae cats too. Just keep bangin em out, the people who should will come around...

And props for the Don Carlos track - <b>"all respect due, to the man-god Juju...</b>" - HUGE!
big up thx

"all respect due, to the man-called Juju..." :]

- HUGE!

showguns · Post by **showguns** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:39 pm

nothing but love for juju and narco.hz. keep doin it, mang.

jamminb · Post by **jamminb** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:47 pm

Dubstep has given me passion for my music again, I come from a DnB background but before that it was Hardcore from the late 80's early 90's. A lot of us that have arrived hear with Dubstep, probably loved the old school.

I didn't realise ex DnB heads were frowned apon by Dubstep listeners:?:

victorxray · Post by **victorxray** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:58 pm

I am an old reggae-head. Mostly I would go to events that would play a) traditional roots reggae and dub, and b) dancehall. Does this make me some sort of pariah too?

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:16 pm

victorxray wrote:I am an old reggae-head. Mostly I would go to events that would play a) traditional roots reggae and dub, and b) dancehall. Does this make me some sort of pariah too?

wotz egyptians got to do with dubstep??

izm · Post by **izm** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:25 pm

I don't want to come across as offensive or anything but if there's one thing that irritates me about dubstepforum it's this whole "converting" thing.

It's just to me "converting" seems like some fundamentalist religion bullcrap and paired with the whole "jaded junglist" and "d'n'b vs dubstep" concept it can bring some really negative vibes.

To me personally it's all about expanding your musical tastes, not abandoning one genre I like for another - that's backwards mentality.

I have felt dubstep was being thrown at me at first and I did consider it some journo's malarky and thought it'd be a shortlived fad. But then I got myself a copy of Burial's LP (surprise surprise), listened to Boxcutter, some Digital Mystikz, Kode9's Memories of The Future album, Benga, got a vinyl of Mary Anne Hobb's Warrior Dubs, Rephlex compilations, started reading blogs and got interested in Kode9's bass wars concepts, Kodwo Eshun, CCRU etc. and realised it's deeper than Mixmag articles about "revolutionary new club music hailing from Croydon".

But all that's happened has nothing to do with "converting" - it's all evolving and expanding my base of musical interests. I listen to dubstep now, I try and help to promote it with events I'm involved in, I go and support artists, buy vinyl but all that didn't stop me listening to d'n'b, buying d'n'b vinyl, enjoying researching the good music within the genre.

The same way d'n'b has never stopped my listening to good/independent hiphop and hiphop has never been an obstacle to my listening to jazz/ambient/click electronica/house, etc.

I'm sure for some of you "converting" means as much as "getting into" but after reading numerous "dnb is dead / dnb sucks - dubstep is my new found love" posts I see it as negative. And from what I've noticed outside of this forum I'm not alone in my opinion.

Someone said it on here before: there is no competition between dnb and dubstep, it's ok to listen to both. Therefore - stop converting people to dubstep - instead make them expand their tastes and let them add it to whatever music they've been listening to so far.

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:27 pm

^^^ wall of text

breakage · Post by **breakage** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:34 pm

end of thread lol
my man hit it right on the head with that one.

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