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almostskate100
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Resampling Question

Post by almostskate100 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:38 am

Hey guys,

I've been browsing the production forums for a couple weeks now on the topic of resampling. I've watched a ton of youtube videos as well. I still can't seem to figure out one thing, however, about the whole resampling process (I'm using Ableton, fyi).

Say I have a bassline in MIDI form that I then go through countless resampling cycles with, each time adding an effect or two, and at the end, I come up with some dirty bass sound. How am I then suppose to change the note pitches and/or lfo rates (assuming this is a wobble of sorts) of that bassline in the future? Does that mean that every time I want to create a new 16 bar loop or whatever for my bass track, I have to go through all of those resampling steps again, and remember which effect I added each time?

I'm sorry if this question doesn't make sense...I can try to clarify if necessary. Also, please don't link me to some generic "Resampling" thread and tell me that this has been discussed countless times because I've looked. I know how resampling works. I know what it is suppose to do in theory. I just can't figure out this seemingly basic question, and I haven't seen it brought up anywhere. Thanks

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Re: Resampling Question

Post by jrisreal » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:44 am

I don't know, but I would save FX Chains or Channels so that you can re-use them on other patterns
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Re: Resampling Question

Post by Radiant » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:49 am

Yeah you've understood it completely, and that's why I usually save resampling for the very last to make the sounds unique one by one (I think it's starting to get overrated here too).
As soon as you export it as a .wav that's all it's going to be, so you can't change any parameters.
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Re: Resampling Question

Post by chronicrecords » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:49 am

i still havent bothered to learn resampling or even try resampling, still busy learning other shit like sound design.. but from what i gather you need to have the sound your set with before you resample. but i could be wrong... i think you need to have the exact lfo and note/pitch you want to use before you go to resample because once you resample its just a wav file and you cant modify anything through the synth any more, just external processing effects.
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Re: Resampling Question

Post by jrisreal » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:52 am

you could just record one long note of the synth and loop that for further midi use.
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Re: Resampling Question

Post by wub » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:29 am

almostskate100 wrote:Say I have a bassline in MIDI form that I then go through countless resampling cycles with, each time adding an effect or two, and at the end, I come up with some dirty bass sound. How am I then suppose to change the note pitches and/or lfo rates (assuming this is a wobble of sorts) of that bassline in the future? Does that mean that every time I want to create a new 16 bar loop or whatever for my bass track, I have to go through all of those resampling steps again, and remember which effect I added each time?
You can either bounce out one long note, or else a whole series of notes with spaces in between. Then cut the notes up and reload into a sampler, which is then used to play the MIDI information.
jrisreal wrote:save FX Chains or Channels so that you can re-use them on other patterns
Always save effects chains/patterns/setups as templates. They take up very little space, and as long as they're labelled correctly you can reload as and when required.
Radiant wrote:As soon as you export it as a .wav that's all it's going to be, so you can't change any parameters.
Not strictly a bad thing - sometimes can be beneficial to 'commit' to sound as opposed to constantly refining it and not making any more headway with other aspects of the tune.
chronicrecords wrote:but from what i gather you need to have the sound your set with before you resample. but i could be wrong...
There is no right/wrong way of approaching any aspect of production.
chronicrecords wrote: i think you need to have the exact lfo and note/pitch you want to use before you go to resample because once you resample its just a wav file and you cant modify anything through the synth any more, just external processing effects.
You could always process the bass as a sound by itself, then once you've processed it to the point where you're happy with the sound, THEN you can start adding LFOs etc.

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