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Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Korupt » Wed May 18, 2011 12:29 am

I'm kind of a newcomer to this website, but this is the place I think I would get the most help. Well, I've been listening to dubstep for about a year and only started producing like two months ago. I only knew of producers such as Flux Pavilion, Cookie Monsta, Skrillex because those are just the mainstream "brostep"(don't really like the term) artists. I'm also from the US and only 14 and teh FILTHZ WUBSWOOBSEEE scene is really the only popular dubstep scene there is here *sigh*. But, I signed up for this website and usually scoured the SNH every day or two. That's where I heard about artists such as MRK1, Kromestar, Digital Mystikz, Kode9, Burial, etc. Now don't get me wrong I still listen to some Flux Pavilion and whatnot, but that's usually when I'm stoned, because that stuff BLOWS YOUR MIND. Now to the real point, I've been producing "brostep", but I want to switch over and start producing deep and bassy tunes. I'm just asking for some advice since if I google "dubstep tutorial" the majority would be teaching me how to make teh WUBSWOOBSEEE's. Also, I know you guys/girls are nice people and probably have some good advice to give, although whether you want to give out that information is completely up to you. Finally, I wonder if any of you guys made the switch from "brostep" to dubstep. I use FL Studio BTW, but I also have Cubase 5. One specific topic that I've been wondering about also is where to get the drums because I'm using VEC1, 2 and 3 and it just isn't really cutting it. Digital Mystikz's drums sound kind of real, so is that the case?

tl;dr: 14 year old switching from producing "brostep" to dubstep. Needs some advice.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Korupt » Wed May 18, 2011 12:34 am

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 18, 2011 12:36 am

Head over to the production forum for this type of stuff.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by bassrael » Wed May 18, 2011 12:37 am

leave out the midrange :corntard:

just produce what you like, don´t try to produce a special sound imho.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Korupt » Wed May 18, 2011 12:38 am

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Shum » Wed May 18, 2011 12:40 am

Listen to and attempt to emulate Mala as much as you possibly can.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by noam » Wed May 18, 2011 12:44 am

copy everything

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by apmje » Wed May 18, 2011 12:52 am

Shum wrote:Listen to and attempt to emulate Mala as much as you possibly can.
noam wrote:copy everything

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Korupt » Wed May 18, 2011 12:54 am

noam wrote:copy everything

learn nothing
:X:
I'm certainly not trying to impersonate anyone, but there is an obvious difference between and Flux Pavilion and Coki, is there not? I'm just looking for advice on producing deeper, more meaningful music.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by apmje » Wed May 18, 2011 12:57 am

I think you have this the wrong way. Meaning is in the eye of the beholder, just because it uses a sine instead of a saw doesn't make it 'more meaningful'.

I'm not a producer but my advice is to experiment and have fun. Don't hold yourself to these boundaries of what is brostep, what is dubstep. My guess is at after 2 months of production, you are still going to be learning software so just go with the flow. Make a track at 120, use different synths etc and just have some fun.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by roid » Wed May 18, 2011 12:59 am

Korupt wrote:
noam wrote:copy everything

learn nothing
:X:
I'm certainly not trying to impersonate anyone, but there is an obvious difference between and Flux Pavilion and Coki, is there not? I'm just looking for advice on producing deeper, more meaningful music.
you don't ask people how to make "deep meaningful music" SHIT COMES FROM YA SOUL BRAH

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Korupt » Wed May 18, 2011 1:07 am

Thanks apmje and roid, it kind of came out wrong(I'm not the best with words) I'm not looking for someone else's creativity, I was just looking for information on drums and samples and such which I realize now I should just head to the Production Forum for.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by constrobuz » Wed May 18, 2011 2:21 am

coki and kromestar are just as shitty as flux pavillion and skrillex. stop making dubstep and make a real genre of music

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by AllNightDayDream » Wed May 18, 2011 2:42 am

It's fine to say you want to sound like mala or whoever. It really is. People will look for anything to critisize people who come from a filth background.

Generally, try to be very minimalist with just about everything. That's a huge difference between the bro sound and the deep. Flux and co will throw hordes of attention grabbing synths at you one after the other. Deep is all about subtlety, teasing listeners with incidental sounds and textures. Space is fucking key, reverb almost every element. Even the slightest bit of reverb goes a long way. Delay effects are pretty key as well, And another common difference between the two schools is how deep producers tend to un-sync things like delay and LFO, to give it that disjointed feel. The reverb and delay covers the dub, and the step is equally as important. You need to have a kind of shuffle to your drums, keep things syncopated, slightly sporadic and dancey. Try adding a bit of swing. I know FL makes it pretty simple with that little swing bar it has, i dunno how you do it in cubase. Stay the fuck away from the notoriously simple brostep rhythms (although datsik sometimes display insane rhythm work) Kick + snare is fine, but what happens in between, or what doesn't happen, is much more important.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by psychedelicatessen » Wed May 18, 2011 3:37 am

I've only been producing since October, and I don't even use a DAW. Well... I guess I kind of do, though it's really ghetto and makeshift. Anyways, "Producing" mind you. I've been playing several instruments for years, and spent many late nights researching music theory. I've spent a lot of time doing research and really learning how everything works in theory as much as I've been actually applying it. Also, quit listening to Dubstep. If you really want to make Dubstep, you will. If that's not what you're really passionate about, then you'll quickly find something else you'll enjoy producing more. That's what happened to me.
One more thing, don't give up. You're new. Hell, so am I. I don't know very much at all when it comes to producing. All my knowledge is from playing instruments, being a soundman in middle school, and dedication. I spend at least six hours a day at my computer working on tunes.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by therook » Wed May 18, 2011 3:57 am

Sub, Sub, and more Sub!

Oh, and dark ragga samples :)
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Shum » Wed May 18, 2011 4:13 am

I mentioned Mala's name because he is an outstanding producer of music in general, though what I perhaps meant was that you should listen to (and mimic) artists that you enjoy. The purpose of which is to provide a focus (keyword) for your work to build up your bag of musical/studio tricks. This, in turn provides a base for your own creativity to grow from.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by hxczach » Wed May 18, 2011 4:21 am

GETTING HIGH AT THE AGE OF 14?!

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 18, 2011 6:21 am

That really is not a good idea, kids. Long term consequences for the developing brain.
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