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When Changing Alias...

Post by Basic A » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:03 am

Would you just abruptly change it, like, let your listeners wake up one day find half your catalog gone and your accounts all renamed...

Or would you slowly transition it, slowly phase out the old, begin name changes with an AKA and then after a month or so make the full switch and rename your accounts and all that jazz?

Curiosity, lets here you marketing-minded people speak up here.
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by GothamHero » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:08 am

Depends how subtle the change is. Plasticman went to Plastician and no one really threw a riot, because it wasn't that major and he had a large following, so he could do whatever he wanted, haha. As long as you include "formerly..." in all of the important places: Twitter, Facebook, SoundCloud, then I think it's fine. What did you have in mind?

Or you could take the Spor root and create an entirely new persona for yourself...
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Post by jaydot » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:14 am

As GothamHero says depends how subtle the change is, are you thinking of going the whole totally different name route or just changing from Basic A to Basic Z/ Simple A or something?
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by Basic A » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:33 am

jaydot wrote:As GothamHero says depends how subtle the change is, are you thinking of going the whole totally different name route or just changing from Basic A to Basic Z/ Simple A or something?
Whole totally different name route. I want to position myself to where this new alias is an outlet for all things dancefloor and Basic A. is only left around as an underground thing for my hiphop/tape edits.

Essentially taking the Spor route and creating an entirely new persona... Obviously, Ill want my past releases and stuff noted still, the question is, how abruptly should I change without throwing my listeners off...
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by Thierry_D » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:38 am

Basic A sounds Dope!
i would stick with it

well i went from Thierry Le Dj to Thierry D
i preffer it know tho i also have had pass release under TLD but i leave it under that name and when i play those tunes on mixes i still credit as Thierry Le Dj
but all my new stuff is under the new name.
but also since i've change the name i've been lazy to re change my AIM,email i tryed changing my FB likes page but you only have certain amount to change it..

but i keep noticing people always changing there names..
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Post by Basic A » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:43 am

Thierry D wrote:Basic A sounds Dope!
i would stick with it

well i went from Thierry Le Dj to Thierry D
i preffer it know tho i also have had pass release under TLD but i leave it under that name and when i play those tunes on mixes i still credit as Thierry Le Dj
but all my new stuff is under the new name.
but also since i've change the name i've been lazy to re change my AIM,email i tryed changing my FB likes page but you only have certain amount to change it..

but i keep noticing people always changing there names..
its not about the sound of my name, its about my entire musical resume up until now... I feel stagnated as Basic A., like this is about as far as im going to be able (or rather willing) to take this name... Like I said, Im not throwing it out entirely, Ill still be around under this alias, just going to reserve it for stuff Id like to keep low-key...

basically, if I change alias's, over the years ive built up connections that will let me secure things like debut releases, maybe some bookings or radio features ect... Stuff i didnt have access to when I was a 15yr old kid pushing industrial mixtapes on myspace...

Ive become split too, one day, I make aggro ass wobble stuff to tear up dancefloors, the next day Im hunched over piles of magnetic strips and masking tape, being self indulgent...

its not a question of whether Im going to do it or not, my minds made up and a new alias is on the way... The question is really how abruptly I should change my soundcloud name and playlist lol.
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by GothamHero » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:00 pm

Why don't you upload one, and only one, track in the style of your new persona onto your current SoundCloud account, and title it accordingly.
So, "new producer name" - "Track title", then in the description announce you have a new persona for this style of music, see if anyone is interested, link the new account, build a new following, then go from there. It's not starting over essentially, because you already have a following (though I haven't checked how big it is). It's the same as the process of forming a group. Take Magnetic Man, a completely new group in the 90s, but formed with the absolute legends of dubstep taking a different route, so it wasn't hard for them at all to get a following for their new style of music. They were all popular before they made a new persona, so it really wasn't hard for them to grow like they did. Essentially, a large amount (if not all) of your followers will clock on to the new persona, plus, you'll get new followers. It's not as daunting as it seems. If you're completely set in stone on your decision, don't beat around the bush. Announce it quickly and build a new following.

Just keep announcing it to create exposure. Make it the only producer you are following on your current SoundCloud account if you have to, haha. Anything to get it out there quickly. Also, are you ditching Basic A? Or will you be releasing certain genres on each?
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by Heartless » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:02 pm

I'd be pretty explicit about the purpose of each alias and not try and force your old fan base into anything they might not know you for. Definitely try to make the switch as smooth as possible.

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Post by Thierry_D » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:08 pm

Basic A wrote:
Thierry D wrote:Basic A sounds Dope!
i would stick with it

well i went from Thierry Le Dj to Thierry D
i preffer it know tho i also have had pass release under TLD but i leave it under that name and when i play those tunes on mixes i still credit as Thierry Le Dj
but all my new stuff is under the new name.
but also since i've change the name i've been lazy to re change my AIM,email i tryed changing my FB likes page but you only have certain amount to change it..

but i keep noticing people always changing there names..
its not about the sound of my name, its about my entire musical resume up until now... I feel stagnated as Basic A., like this is about as far as im going to be able (or rather willing) to take this name... Like I said, Im not throwing it out entirely, Ill still be around under this alias, just going to reserve it for stuff Id like to keep low-key...

basically, if I change alias's, over the years ive built up connections that will let me secure things like debut releases, maybe some bookings or radio features ect... Stuff i didnt have access to when I was a 15yr old kid pushing industrial mixtapes on myspace...

Ive become split too, one day, I make aggro ass wobble stuff to tear up dancefloors, the next day Im hunched over piles of magnetic strips and masking tape, being self indulgent...

its not a question of whether Im going to do it or not, my minds made up and a new alias is on the way... The question is really how abruptly I should change my soundcloud name and playlist lol.

Fair enough!
just keep your old soundcloud as Basic A and make a new one for your new Alias if you look at my signature i have one for my old one and new one..
just with your new one follow maybe all the people following you on the Basic A account or
change the name of this account but still make a new one with Basic A
but i remeber when i change mine there was no big edits but still felt weird for sometimes to get use of a new name.
just make a small bio new name A.K.A Basic A
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by Basic A » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:13 pm

GothamHero wrote:Why don't you upload one, and only one, track in the style of your new persona onto your current SoundCloud account, and title it accordingly.
Just keep announcing it to create exposure. Make it the only producer you are following on your current SoundCloud account if you have to, haha. Anything to get it out there quickly. Also, are you ditching Basic A? Or will you be releasing certain genres on each?
Done the upload one thing, have been hassled by soundcloud over multiple accounts before though, Im intent on transferring this one...

And nah, not ditching it, just relegating it to be a place I publish my self indulgent stuff.
Heartless wrote:I'd be pretty explicit about the purpose of each alias and not try and force your old fan base into anything they might not know you for. Definitely try to make the switch as smooth as possible.
Fair. And that might be how it would feel too, however, lately its been minimal love on my soundcloud/facebook/youtube, lot of 'your a sellout' going on lol... so they might see this coming.

thinking Im just gonna abruptly switch. Ive had a dedicated soundcloud for my hiphop for a while, just gonna leave it up and transfer the old one I think...

Gah this is harder then actually writing the tunes, marketing.
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Re: When Changing Alias...

Post by Heartless » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:40 pm

Heartless wrote:I'd be pretty explicit about the purpose of each alias and not try and force your old fan base into anything they might not know you for. Definitely try to make the switch as smooth as possible.
Fair. And that might be how it would feel too, however, lately its been minimal love on my soundcloud/facebook/youtube, lot of 'your a sellout' going on lol... so they might see this coming.

thinking Im just gonna abruptly switch. Ive had a dedicated soundcloud for my hiphop for a while, just gonna leave it up and transfer the old one I think...

Gah this is harder then actually writing the tunes, marketing.[/quote]
Word. The plus side of never having a following is I've never had to deal with any sort of backlash from my sporadic genre hopping. Good luck.

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Post by bassinine » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:21 pm

I've been thinking about doing this for a while. But I think I'm just going to create a new sound cloud profile with the new name and start uploading tunes. if the new profile starts to get more attention, then I'll just make that my main. But... That doesn't help you that much considering you already have a following.

Basically make a profile with your new name, for example my new name is going to be hyena. I'm going to upload my tracks to both my new profile and the old one, and on the old one have the track named in this format "hyena - [song title] - so my old followers will still be able to hear new tracks. Then just phase out the old name as time dictates.

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Post by Sparxy » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:22 pm

Unless you're really big, I don't think many people will care what your name is.
A name means more to you than it does to the general public. If changing it makes you feel better, or helps you change direction, or has a personal meaning for you, by all means do it. But don't expect anyone outside your direct circle of peers / friends to give a shit. Just my two pence :W:

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Post by skanky beats » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:26 pm

just do it

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Post by skimpi » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:51 pm

Basic A wrote: its not about the sound of my name, its about my entire musical resume up until now... I feel stagnated as Basic A., like this is about as far as im going to be able (or rather willing) to take this name... Like I said, Im not throwing it out entirely, Ill still be around under this alias, just going to reserve it for stuff Id like to keep low-key...

basically, if I change alias's, over the years ive built up connections that will let me secure things like debut releases, maybe some bookings or radio features ect... Stuff i didnt have access to when I was a 15yr old kid pushing industrial mixtapes on myspace...

Ive become split too, one day, I make aggro ass wobble stuff to tear up dancefloors, the next day Im hunched over piles of magnetic strips and masking tape, being self indulgent...

its not a question of whether Im going to do it or not, my minds made up and a new alias is on the way... The question is really how abruptly I should change my soundcloud name and playlist lol.
im not to sure what you mean about the connections, i mean i know if you make a new soundcloud with a new name, then you fans may not know about it unless you make it clear, but connections for releases you will still have them wont you? you still talk to the people, you will just release under a different name. like with feed me, i didnt realise it was spor at first, but obviously cos he is spor, he has the contacts and managed to get his music through to the mau5, and everyone loves it cos its on ukf and its some filthy dubstep or whatever, not because its spor. i would assume anyway haha.

i do like what rama/pearson sound has done though. pearson came about when like a year maybe even 2 years ago? and it was like slightly different stuff, started out as the music he wanted to release that didnt fit with the rama sound maybe, i mean he released like slower housey stuff, more minimal funky percussive stuff and even 170 BPM. but then his two alias seemed to merge together, and the stuff he was releasing on both sides, sounded similar, in the way that you knew it was him, but it was all different stuff. his ramadanman releases wernt straight up dubstep like before, so it was like he was releasing stuff that before would have been for pearson, as rama. and now he has just slowly edged the ramadanman name out and became pearson sound (/ramadanman :cornlol: ).
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Post by wub » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:25 pm

If it were me, I'd do a straight swap, from one name to another.

HOWEVER.


I'd do it with some fucking style. Put together a whole mixtape demonstrating the change in style (if there is one) crammed full of new tunes under your new name...push the hell out of it online and IRL, and give a brief bio in which you mention your former moniker. Make people sit the fuck up and take notice with your beats; the new name will then be associated with the good music, and if people are so inclined they can investigate your past.

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Post by ComfiStile » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:46 pm

I've been thinking of doing this when I finally make a tune I'm proud of. Comfistile is a shit name anyhow.
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Post by krispy » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:27 pm

wub wrote:If it were me, I'd do a straight swap, from one name to another.

HOWEVER.


I'd do it with some fucking style. Put together a whole mixtape demonstrating the change in style (if there is one) crammed full of new tunes under your new name...push the hell out of it online and IRL, and give a brief bio in which you mention your former moniker. Make people sit the fuck up and take notice with your beats; the new name will then be associated with the good music, and if people are so inclined they can investigate your past.
Ooh I like this answer! I think it would be best to enter the realm as a new alias with a good bunch of tunes ready to go
That way you aren't just entering the world with an empty plate
People will be excited about you right from the start

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Post by Iorek » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:14 pm

krispy wrote:
wub wrote:If it were me, I'd do a straight swap, from one name to another.

HOWEVER.


I'd do it with some fucking style. Put together a whole mixtape demonstrating the change in style (if there is one) crammed full of new tunes under your new name...push the hell out of it online and IRL, and give a brief bio in which you mention your former moniker. Make people sit the fuck up and take notice with your beats; the new name will then be associated with the good music, and if people are so inclined they can investigate your past.
Ooh I like this answer! I think it would be best to enter the realm as a new alias with a good bunch of tunes ready to go
That way you aren't just entering the world with an empty plate
People will be excited about you right from the start

this :W: My plan for the next few months, Been looking for something easier to pronounce and a bit catchier while I finish up a few tracks.

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Post by GothamHero » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:19 pm

krispy wrote:
wub wrote:If it were me, I'd do a straight swap, from one name to another.

HOWEVER.


I'd do it with some fucking style. Put together a whole mixtape demonstrating the change in style (if there is one) crammed full of new tunes under your new name...push the hell out of it online and IRL, and give a brief bio in which you mention your former moniker. Make people sit the fuck up and take notice with your beats; the new name will then be associated with the good music, and if people are so inclined they can investigate your past.
Ooh I like this answer! I think it would be best to enter the realm as a new alias with a good bunch of tunes ready to go
That way you aren't just entering the world with an empty plate
People will be excited about you right from the start
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Good luck, Basic A, or whatever your new alias is. I don't think you told us yet :W:
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