If there is no subbass then it is not dubstep?

[Akira]

Man i have just returned here after a long time away from the whole dubstep scene, i got dissillusioned with it before but now...jesus christ...
To lay it all out there, There are good producers, the likes of dmz hyperdub etc who make really good music that is more original than alot of songs in all genres out there. However dubstep has become dominated by songs that feature a bass done at a higher frequency so there is not much sub bass, for me that is what the genre and the whole scene is based on. Its what made going to Exodus/DMZ when i was 15 so special.

It seems that this is becoming less frequent and i suppose what has happened is that people have dismissed the power of the sub. which, for me at least is what dubstep and bass culture is all about. I have decided to just let it go really I mean there are no nights in leeds now for good dubstep...literally none.... and after london and bristol Id say leeds is the next home of dubstep so i dont quite understand why theres such a dearth.

But i suppose that is just the way these things go. Hopefully as the scene expands, be it through the over commercialisation or whatever it increases the chance that people will be turned onto the brilliant music by the likes of mala, loefah, burial, quest , silkie etccc. Because if it wasnt popular the chance that people would be turned onto those artists would be alot smaller. The biggest beef alot of people have I think is that on one hand although the growth and mainstream success of a genre is pretty much inevitable with anything that gets abit of populairty, my problem and alot of other peoples is that the type of sound that has got popular is actually quite hurtful to your eardrums. It has a harsh, whining shrill quality that lacks depth and subtlety. This combined with a what is now overused drum pattern(you know which one I mean) results in bad music that has a substance to it one would equate with pop. Only at least most pop tracks feature differnt types of bass, whereas with dubstep you just have an lfo'd wobble. If there was more variety to the wobble side of things id probably feel it more, the problem is many tracks sound very similiar. With the deeper sound though you have a lot more variety from artist to artist and i feel this creates a more interesting and overall listenable genre.

Brostep just hurts my ears. Like literally, its painful to listen to, im trying to be honest and not ott here but its rather ridiculous isnt it? That side of dubstep is just a one trick pony and is as sonically pleasing as an out of time gabba set.... Nuff Said

[beerz]

soz for harshness......shouldnt give mates free range on my account lol

[Lectric]

tld;dr: OP say brostep is ghey

[Molzie]

tld;dr: OP say brostep is ghey

lol

[tacospheros]

dont worry about the retards yo, some of us can read. and agree with you


i also don't thin k threads like this should be locked. let the record show how people feel

[garethom]

dont worry about the retards yo, some of us can read. and agree with you

Why even bother to comment on it if you supposedly didn't read it.

Occasionally dip onto youtube for a laugh at some horrible bro-step, and my sub is doing nothing, may as well not be there.

[horsefeather]

Brostep just hurts my ears. Like literally, its painful to listen to

[Lectric]

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oh my god i cant do it anymore. i cant troll...

but yeh brostep is kinda really shite

[sigbowls]

id switch out gabba and put punk

[InternetSlaveMaster]

What? Reading on a text-based internet forum? How dare you!

But anyways, there is no point in complaining about this sort of matter. While I whole-heartedly agree with you, what's popular is popular whether we like it or not. Yes, it's sad a lot of artists aren't gaining the respect they deserve, but in the end, I believe good music will triumph because in 20 years artists like Skrillex will be seen as "Oh jeez, I can't believe I listened to that stuff", while Burial will still mean a lot to people. I think that's more of an accomplishment than anything. (No dis to Skrillex of course, but he seemed the obvious example in all of this.)

[dro524]

For me, dubstep is music where the sub-bass frequencies take control of the song and are a driving force in it. For brostep, most of the song is led by noise, wobbles, etc, with the bass thrown on to give it more "oomph".

[Teknicyde]

I think its pretty common to take anything with midrange and say it has no sub, which outright isnt true and everyone in the thread knows it. Theres loads of tearout midrange with solid subs, just as much as there is without them.

OP, seems like moaning to me.

Stop using skrillex as an example. if your going to at least have to nuts to admit its his image your hating on... There are alot better, longer established bro producers then him...

Live with it. Bro is here to stay.

[InternetSlaveMaster]

Stop using skrillex as an example. if your going to at least have to nuts to admit its his image your hating on... There are alot better, longer established bro producers then him...

I assume you are referring to me? I like Skrillex, I didn't give a hint of negativity towards him. Was just using him as an example of a new producer everyone goes crazy over but then everyone forgets once the trend shifts. Didn't even really mention his music. No need to take things so personal.

[budsteq]

no it is not dubstep.

[Teknicyde]

Stop using skrillex as an example. if your going to at least have to nuts to admit its his image your hating on... There are alot better, longer established bro producers then him...

I assume you are referring to me? I like Skrillex, I didn't give a hint of negativity towards him. Was just using him as an example of a new producer everyone goes crazy over but then everyone forgets once the trend shifts. Didn't even really mention his music. No need to take things so personal.

Not at you at all, its sad to hear you like him, and didnt take anything personally? Where on earth was there anything personal in my post? A bunch of sarcasm, if you read between the lines my post was saying 'Stop bitching on dubstepforum'....

[Mr Hyde]

yeah, i'd agree- doesn't really seem like its actually dubstep if it doesn't even have sub. but this sort of anti-brostep talk has been done and done to death.

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=172790

[monkers]

in my opinion
no

[Akira]

I dont get it tho, IDM is not that popular cos it sounds pretty out there, brostep is kinda takin shit to the extreme but people love it, IDM is alot more listenable to than brostep as well...I just dont understand how a genre that has sounds akin to a serious death metal band/bunch of powertools has become so popular when really its alot more extreme than say a lot of quests or pinch's or etc tracks.

[incnic]

SOME RLY INTESRING PEOPLE IN HERE

[Akira]

SOME RLY INTESRING PEOPLE IN HERE

Dont you go trollin on my posts!