I guess this goes here.

[Rascal94]

Okayy.. So to start off with a short introduction, I've listened to dubstep for awhile now ever since the second wave ~08,09 and I finally have had the resources and interest to try to make it. I'm only 17 and just picked it up as a hobby around july. I bought FL studio and I have been on this site ever since I started with making simple beats and wubs and now I finally want to ask some serious QUESTIONS about the music and NOT the program.

Btw, here is me trying to make some dubsteppy music... and yes it sucksss and is very "brostep"-like... I guess. And feel free to check out my other stuff as well (:
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but yea, here are the questions:

1) What is the difference between making one synth that includes both the wub and the sub bass in the equalizer and separating them? And by separating them I mean as in making one synth for the wub and another for sub bass?

2) I have seen two ways to equalize. One is just bringing down the area that you wanna bring down by just a little and the other one is when someone brings it down all the way. Which is better?

Thankss

[RandoRando]

1 . Didn't you just answer your own question?

2. That's a statement not a question. And it depends on the sound and the kind Of sound your trying tO achieve.

3. Ok.

And someone's prolly gonna tell you to use the wip thread for feedback on yourtracks. I'm on a touch otherwise I would listen.

And read the stickies if you haven already. Amazing info . Eg: excision explains what kind of synths he uses for certain types of sounds!

Cheers bro

[Rascal94]

okay

[Rascal94]

1 . Didn't you just answer your own question?

2. That's a statement not a question. And it depends on the sound and the kind Of sound your trying tO achieve.

3. Ok.

And someone's prolly gonna tell you to use the wip thread for feedback on yourtracks. I'm on a touch otherwise I would listen.

And read the stickies if you haven already. Amazing info . Eg: excision explains what kind of synths he uses for certain types of sounds!

Cheers bro

I've already looked into the production bible. But I cleared up my questions more. Sorry for making them confusing. It's the hookah :/

[oWLinDaylight]

for question one the main idea for making a sub bass is having a clean subwoofer pumping sound under your bass. Alot of dirty bass sounds have a similarly dirty sub bass. Adding a pure sub bass gives you a cleaner sound and lets you tweak your bass any way you want without worrying about how the lows are hitting on the sub. Also don't worry about making brostep vs dubstep, just make as much music as you can. You'll learn techniques from both that will compliment your production. Tbh your track is more dubstep than brostep, but thats beside the point.

Thats a good eq question. When you bring the eq down all the way, you're usually selecting a very defined frequency that you want to cut. Often producers will bring 200 hz all the way down on their bass to let the snare through. Snares punch at 200 so by cutting a small band in the eq you allow the snare to come through. When you bring down the frequency a small amount this is often a wide but shallow cut. This wide shallow cut changes the sound more drastically than a deep narrow cut.

To sum it up, bringing it down all they way happens at a very specific frequency while bringing the eq down a little bit is used for shaping the sound and allowing other sounds to come through.

and for 3, well I cant really help you there :p

[Rascal94]

for question one the main idea for making a sub bass is having a clean subwoofer pumping sound under your bass. Alot of dirty bass sounds have a similarly dirty sub bass. Adding a pure sub bass gives you a cleaner sound and lets you tweak your bass any way you want without worrying about how the lows are hitting on the sub. Also don't worry about making brostep vs dubstep, just make as much music as you can. You'll learn techniques from both that will compliment your production. Tbh your track is more dubstep than brostep, but thats beside the point.

Thats a good eq question. When you bring the eq down all the way, you're usually selecting a very defined frequency that you want to cut. Often producers will bring 200 hz all the way down on their bass to let the snare through. Snares punch at 200 so by cutting a small band in the eq you allow the snare to come through. When you bring down the frequency a small amount this is often a wide but shallow cut. This wide shallow cut changes the sound more drastically than a deep narrow cut.

To sum it up, bringing it down all they way happens at a very specific frequency while bringing the eq down a little bit is used for shaping the sound and allowing other sounds to come through.

and for 3, well I cant really help you there :p

Haha. Thanks (: I have a few questions about your answers though.

On the first step.. would I have to set up my sub bass so that it "wubs" just the same as my wobble? and for the second one.. wouldn't putting compression on my track be a good substitute for making those kind of cuts?

[oWLinDaylight]

for question one the main idea for making a sub bass is having a clean subwoofer pumping sound under your bass. Alot of dirty bass sounds have a similarly dirty sub bass. Adding a pure sub bass gives you a cleaner sound and lets you tweak your bass any way you want without worrying about how the lows are hitting on the sub. Also don't worry about making brostep vs dubstep, just make as much music as you can. You'll learn techniques from both that will compliment your production. Tbh your track is more dubstep than brostep, but thats beside the point.

Thats a good eq question. When you bring the eq down all the way, you're usually selecting a very defined frequency that you want to cut. Often producers will bring 200 hz all the way down on their bass to let the snare through. Snares punch at 200 so by cutting a small band in the eq you allow the snare to come through. When you bring down the frequency a small amount this is often a wide but shallow cut. This wide shallow cut changes the sound more drastically than a deep narrow cut.

To sum it up, bringing it down all they way happens at a very specific frequency while bringing the eq down a little bit is used for shaping the sound and allowing other sounds to come through.

and for 3, well I cant really help you there :p

Haha. Thanks (: I have a few questions about your answers though.

On the first step.. would I have to set up my sub bass so that it "wubs" just the same as my wobble? and for the second one.. wouldn't putting compression on my track be a good substitute for making those kind of cuts?

I hope Im understandable I've had a few tonight . With the sub bass you don't have to worry about the wobble. The whole idea of the sub bass is that it fills up the bass of the track no matter what the bass synth is doing. So under the wobbles there's always a strong bass. And since sub bass is usually a sine wave, there's really no sound to "wub".

And for your second, no. Eq cuts and compression are very different. It sounds like you might be referring to sidechain compression as a way to let other sounds through. With side chain compression your squashing a sound while another sound is playing. But you with eq cuts your carving out a permanent spot for that sounds to come through. With drums they are somewhat interchangeable since the drum hit is very short. But if you have two synths that are trying to play in the same frequency range, an eq cut can make room for both of the synths to play together at loud volume.

[Rascal94]

I hope Im understandable I've had a few tonight . With the sub bass you don't have to worry about the wobble. The whole idea of the sub bass is that it fills up the bass of the track no matter what the bass synth is doing. So under the wobbles there's always a strong bass. And since sub bass is usually a sine wave, there's really no sound to "wub".

And for your second, no. Eq cuts and compression are very different. It sounds like you might be referring to sidechain compression as a way to let other sounds through. With side chain compression your squashing a sound while another sound is playing. But you with eq cuts your carving out a permanent spot for that sounds to come through. With drums they are somewhat interchangeable since the drum hit is very short. But if you have two synths that are trying to play in the same frequency range, an eq cut can make room for both of the synths to play together at loud volume.

Alright. Thanks again. I've looked more into sub bass now. I always thought sub bass was like secondary bass rather than actual Sub as in subwoofer bass

[djOdyssey]

And read the stickies if you haven already. Amazing info . Eg: excision explains what kind of synths he uses for certain types of sounds!

Cheers bro

First, i must apologize, i'm 17, i'm new to the website, and have only been producing music through DAW programs, instead of physical instruments(guitar/drums) since April, so i'm not big with termonology yet.
What are you referring to by "the stickies"? Is it some type of thread on here?

Also,

I've already looked into the production bible. But I cleared up my questions more. Sorry for making them confusing. It's the hookah :/

What is the production bible, and where could i find such information?

Help is much appreciated

[oWLinDaylight]

And read the stickies if you haven already. Amazing info . Eg: excision explains what kind of synths he uses for certain types of sounds!

Cheers bro

First, i must apologize, i'm 17, i'm new to the website, and have only been producing music through DAW programs, instead of physical instruments(guitar/drums) since April, so i'm not big with termonology yet.
What are you referring to by "the stickies"? Is it some type of thread on here?

Also,

I've already looked into the production bible. But I cleared up my questions more. Sorry for making them confusing. It's the hookah :/

What is the production bible, and where could i find such information?

Help is much appreciated

The stickies are the threads that are always at the top of the first page of the production forum. They have the exclamation point on there icon. And if you look above those there's two threads with an "i" in their icon, the "huge guide to producing dubstep" is the production bible. Good luck.

[blinx]

huge guide to producing dubstep http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=159713

[djOdyssey]

Thanks guys, i really appreciate it. It looks like i've got some reading to do, bahaha. But if you wanted to see what i've made so far, with never reading any of this, heres a link to my latest EP Outlooks.

http://soundcloud.com/djodyssey-1/sets/ ... s-ep-2011/