What kind of "delay" do you use..

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:29 pm

.. on your samples, or do you find it easier to programme the notes in midi?
Or if you want a dirtier sound, how do you go about getting a mad ping pong effect? Do you need gear or is it possible with a VST?

-[2]DAY_- · Post by **-[2]DAY_-** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:30 pm

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:37 pm

-[2]DAY_- wrote:

Just wondering what special effects people use. Any good VSTs?

oWLinDaylight · Post by **oWLinDaylight** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:50 pm

This will probably give you what you want -> http://www.kvraudio.com/get/892.html

And please tell me you haven't been programming delay with midi notes

123kidd · Post by **123kidd** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:55 pm

stock ableton plugins for me.
Live has a built in ping pong delay.

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:56 pm

That plugin looks a little suspicious to me. If you programme it note by note, it's more precise, and you can get it bang on tempo.
Here's an example of the sort of thing I'm on about.

Digital - Ras 78

oWLinDaylight · Post by **oWLinDaylight** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:02 pm

What do you mean by suspicious? The vst is a .dll, its not going to do anything to your system. And its beat synced so it can fall on quarter notes, eighth notes, etc, with the option to add groove. Your DAW should also have a built in delay with tempo sync.

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:07 pm

123kidd wrote:stock ableton plugins for me.
Live has a built in ping pong delay.

No Ableton here yet. Working with Soundforge (Multi tap and Simple delay) and Fruity Loops, though I'll be upgrading to a macbook soon, so I'll proabably have to learn Logic.

oWLinDaylight wrote:What do you mean by suspicious? The vst is a .dll, its not going to do anything to your system. And its beat synced so it can fall on quarter notes, eighth notes, etc, with the option to add groove. Your DAW should also have a built in delay with tempo sync.

Ok, thanks. I will try it but it looks a bit unprofessional to me, a bit shifty. Does it help to have chorus and reverb and white noise on the same chain?

skimpi · Post by **skimpi** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:14 pm

Metropolis wrote:
123kidd wrote:stock ableton plugins for me.
Live has a built in ping pong delay.
No Ableton here yet. Working with Soundforge (Multi tap and Simple delay) and Fruity Loops, though I'll be upgrading to a macbook soon, so I'll proabably have to learn Logic.
oWLinDaylight wrote:What do you mean by suspicious? The vst is a .dll, its not going to do anything to your system. And its beat synced so it can fall on quarter notes, eighth notes, etc, with the option to add groove. Your DAW should also have a built in delay with tempo sync.
Ok, thanks. I will try it but it looks a bit unprofessional to me, a bit shifty. Does it help to have chorus and reverb and white noise on the same chain?

how can you say a vst looks unprofessional when you dont know whether you can get delay using a vst!? you dont wanna do delay by programming midi, just slam a delay plugin on there, fruity loops should have a stock delay plugin anyway!

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:21 pm

.. but Fruity Loops stock plugins ain't exactly going to help me sound like Ed Rush and Optical, are they?

Does Logic come equipped with interesting delay plugins?

hudson · Post by **hudson** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:33 pm

Mda's Dub Delay is great, but I find myself using Audio Damage's DubStation way more often.

skimpi · Post by **skimpi** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:40 pm

Metropolis wrote:.. but Fruity Loops stock plugins ain't exactly going to help me sound like Ed Rush and Optical, are they?
Does Logic come equipped with interesting delay plugins?

it doesnt matter what plugins you have, they all do basically the same thing. but ive never used fruity loops so i dunno what the sock plugins realy do. logics plugins are well substantial enough to make pro tracks.

-[2]DAY_- · Post by **-[2]DAY_-** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:42 pm

stock delay plugins are all fine, and better ones are great but are not the secret to sounding like ... whoever. MIDI notes are not more accurate than a tempo-synced delay. It is also a completely different effect to program midi note repeats, than it is to use delay FX on audio signals.

Metropolis wrote:Does it help to have chorus and reverb and white noise on the same chain?

Yeah, this thread is what looks shifty to me. You are either insane or just trolling.

hudson · Post by **hudson** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:42 pm

skimpi wrote:sock plugins

skimpi · Post by **skimpi** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:46 pm

hudson wrote:
skimpi wrote:sock plugins

oWLinDaylight · Post by **oWLinDaylight** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:47 pm

Metropolis wrote:.. but Fruity Loops stock plugins ain't exactly going to help me sound like Ed Rush and Optical, are they?

No plugin can do this, but learning how to effectively use even stock plugins will. You can't judge free vsts by their GUI's, they people making them don't get any benefit by wasting their time making it look more "professional."

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:48 pm

skimpi wrote:
Metropolis wrote: it doesnt matter what plugins you have, they all do basically the same thing. but ive never used fruity loops so i dunno what the sock plugins realy do. logics plugins are well substantial enough to make pro tracks.

I like the way you think. Nice 303 sounds on that tune.

orangeapplesauce · Post by **orangeapplesauce** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:58 pm

abletons delays are great, I use nothing else. except and electro harmonix delay pedal that i use for vocals...

bassinine · Post by **bassinine** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:59 pm

on bass, short 20-40ms delay with a good bit of feedback.

on higher synths and hats, etc, ping pong or simple delay in ableton always works.

Metropolis · Post by **Metropolis** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:14 pm

Why's chrous and reverb on the same chain a bad thing? Is it acceptable to use delay on your sub bass?

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