ever feel discouraged about your tunes and skills?

[mikeyp]

go to youtube, type in "(shitty pop song here) dubstep remix"
-try- to listen to a few
enjoy the rest of your day



but seriously the inspiration for this thread came from a soundcloud group for a remix i'm working on now and out of like 30 entries only a handful are listenable
not hating or anything, we all sucked at one point but it helps put things in perspective for you.
so if you feel like you're not going anywhere with your music, don't fear, because you are

[knotoo]

Lol... what, are they all brostep remixes?

[nnny]

I always feel discouraged, but at the same time I can see myself progressing, so I'm happy enough to keep on at it.

[Sonika]

yeah I probably am one of those people in the Soundcloud group that makes the good producers feel better about themselves....oh well everyone has a purpose lol and also i just started so i got plenty of time to gain more knowledge

[accordionfan]

save all the shit you make . everytime you feel bad listen to the first things you made. you will feel better

[mikeyp]

Lol... what, are they all brostep remixes?

lol idk but people put a lot of shit out there that is just.. not good..

not in a way that may not appeal to taste but is just very poor all around

[mikeyp]

yeah I probably am one of those people in the Soundcloud group that makes the good producers feel better about themselves....oh well everyone has a purpose lol and also i just started so i got plenty of time to gain more knowledge

no you're definitely not. those tunes in your sig blow away some of the shit in this group

[mikeyp]

save all the shit you make . everytime you feel bad listen to the first things you made. you will feel better

YES

[mikeyp]

I always feel discouraged, but at the same time I can see myself progressing, so I'm happy enough to keep on at it.

keep on keepin' on

[B-Frank]

The only encouragement someone needs is to listen back to music they have made in the past... I do this and the quality difference is pretty ridiculous.

[Dystinkt]

I get this all the time, especially if i listen to an artist thats had a major influence in my stuff. at the moment im doing tunes that are nothing like the style i got a bit known for, and my new stuff just isnt getting the same love as my older tunes, which is pretty discouraging.

[tavravlavish]

save all the shit you make . everytime you feel bad listen to the first things you made. you will feel better

Hahah yeah that is what's up. I'm unhappy with my mixes now and think they sound weak, but then I listen to 2 years ago and wow it is like night and day, also hearing my progression leading up the most current stuff I've done. A lot more progress than I have given myself credit for.

[Earjax]

Yeah I get down because most my friends think my musics shit, but thats because they hate the genre It really means a lot to me when I get positive comments now.

[Sonika]

yeah I probably am one of those people in the Soundcloud group that makes the good producers feel better about themselves....oh well everyone has a purpose lol and also i just started so i got plenty of time to gain more knowledge

no you're definitely not. those tunes in your sig blow away some of the shit in this group

Really? Shit can I get the link to this group?

[GhostMutt]

Instant gratification culture.

Everyone wants their oompa loompa now






daddy

[Sonika]

...?

[drooka]

I always feel discouraged, but then i remember that i produced Ruby Skies.

fixed ^ that track is gold

[wub]

go to youtube, type in "(shitty pop song here) dubstep remix"
-try- to listen to a few
enjoy the rest of your day

Some remixes of this nature are easy to crank out as they follow a very standard template. As such, you get lowests common denominator sounds, many of which are created by people who are relatively inexperienced within a genre, and as such aren't looking to get as much out of it, nor have any interest in emulating a 'purer' sound of said genre, than those are more involved.

This is more to do with the overtly commercial nature of some tracks (however erroneously) that are referred to as 'Dubstep'. Stuff like Anti War Dub doesn't get daytime radio airplay, but stuff like Skrillex does, so when people who aren't necessarily that into a scene hear a song on the radio and then a word used to describe it, it's only natural that they will assume that this is what that genre sounds like.

but seriously the inspiration for this thread came from a soundcloud group for a remix i'm working on now and out of like 30 entries only a handful are listenable
not hating or anything, we all sucked at one point but it helps put things in perspective for you.
so if you feel like you're not going anywhere with your music, don't fear, because you are

Making music is an expression. Different people express themselves in different ways. Ergo, different people make different music. You may find some tunes are more to your taste than others, but this is down to preference and personal taste - all music is at the end of the day subjective.

I always feel discouraged, but at the same time I can see myself progressing, so I'm happy enough to keep on at it.

save all the shit you make . everytime you feel bad listen to the first things you made. you will feel better

I've found that the more I make tunes, the more I find them not to my liking. This isn't because my skills are going downhill (I hope ), but because as I learn more and do more, the standards with which I consider a tune to be 'good' are raising the bar higher and higher. I mean, when I was first making beats when I had my a copy of FL3 waaaaaaay back when I was still at University, I remember thinking I was the fucking SHIT with them.

I found one on CD a couple weeks ago, it was terrible. Distorted to fuck as I was trying to 'mixdown' through computer speakers...but at the time it was AMAZING

So yeah, now I bounce and keep everything that I make, no matter if it's an epic 12min long acid jam noodling live session recording, or a 3min hip hop track I've made whilst I'm waiting for someone to call me back.

I get this all the time, especially if i listen to an artist thats had a major influence in my stuff. at the moment im doing tunes that are nothing like the style i got a bit known for, and my new stuff just isnt getting the same love as my older tunes, which is pretty discouraging.

If you didn't get any love at all, would you stop making tunes altogether?

Instant gratification culture.

Everyone wants their oompa loompa now

A downside of the Internet culture, sadly - the 15mins of fame is becoming more & more accessible, as is the amount of knowledge you can get. What it took some people years to master, someone can download the basics of in seconds.

People start making tunes faster and faster, the amount of things I see on SC (or indeed, in the Dubs board here) that are along the lines of "I've been making Dubstep 20mins and just finished my first tune etc etc" is staggering. The productions aren't up to scratch (in the majority of cases, there are always exceptions to every rule), and as such the production serves only to devalue the genre.

It's a self fulfiling prophecy - people make basic tunes with little or no knowledge of how they made it (instead using the afore mentioned basic understanding downloaded earlier that day) and the productions reflect that. Other people then hear this sound with the label of Dubstep attached to it, assume that's what the genre sounds like and set out to emulate.

The quality gets watered down over and over again until there is a massive backlash (which we're experiencing at the moment to great effect), at which point the scene splits and new sounds appear that disassociate themselves as much as possible from what came before, or at least certain tangents of it.

Anyway, I'm ranting now.

tl;dr? Keep making music however you fucking want to make it. It's an expression of self, at the end of the day.

[Sonika]

^now THAT'S a good essay idea for earjax

[mikeyp]

wub -

i mainly said the dubstep pop remix thing because I knew it was the only way to guarantee to hear some crap but it wasn't really the only thing I was talking about. I've heard things here and there but didn't have any specific examples in my mind at the time.

and like I said a little ways up it wasn't about taste or personal preference, it was just very poorly produced and you could tell whoever it was just lacked the knowledge to put something decent sounding together. point was, mostly everyone here on dsf knows more than they think they do or they're better than they think they are, and we can know this because some of the things people put out there. just wanted to give a little encouragement in case someone needed it also like i said not hatin on those who put those bad things out there cause we all sucked at one point


but very insightful post, loved the last bit. it's true and it sucks that that happens