8 countries, 20 search warrants $50mill seized.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:09 pm

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/0 ... rclickthru

exfox · Post by **exfox** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:13 pm

you'd think they would have understood this is not the way to do it... megaupload shuts down, 10 new sites crop up... sigh

(note: i'm not taking sides on whether sites like megaupload should exist or not here. it just feels like the same story repeats over and over)

Sexual_Chocolate · Post by **Sexual_Chocolate** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:14 pm

yea, went to megaupload when i woke up this morning.... got a nice surprise from the US government.

oh and wtf?

"Four of the members of what the authorities called a “racketeering conspiracy” were arrested Thursday in Aucklund, New Zealand, the authorities said."

knell · Post by **knell** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:16 pm

4% of the internet gone, just like that.

collige · Post by **collige** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:20 pm

It's ironic that this happens the day after everyone protests SOPA. It's even more ironic that Megaupload is owned by Swizz Beatz.

It's also fucked up that they seized the domain name before anyone involved is found guilty of anything.

Sexual_Chocolate · Post by **Sexual_Chocolate** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 pm

its actually beginning to scare me how much power the US seems to have in other countries....

mks · Post by **mks** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:22 pm

Very interesting that this happened just the day after the web based protests of companies against SOPA.

edit: Just saw your post collige. Damn right!

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:26 pm

love how they arrested everyone who wasn't american. swizz must be chilling atm

Shum · Post by **Shum** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:31 pm

Nevalo wrote:its actually beginning to scare me how much power the US seems to have in other countries....

post WW2, US be running tings fam.

mks · Post by **mks** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:33 pm

While tings inside the country go to shit...

Pedro Sánchez · Post by **Pedro Sánchez** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:37 pm

Shakedowns innit, still on that mafioso shit.

volcanogeorge · Post by **volcanogeorge** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:47 pm

knell wrote:4% of the internet gone, just like that.

This, it's fucking scary.

Fuck EVERYTHING about this.

Kochari · Post by **Kochari** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:48 pm

What's really interesting is that people can earn that much money, and something can be worth such an enormous federal case against them, and yet nothing physical is happening. It's entirely digital. The internet has become a new domain, where actions have very significant consequences. It is possible now to near enough live your life through a computer. This has huge repercussions in several fields of social interaction, from psychological development to law, and probably more. Moreover, the repercussions are long lasting, and constantly changing. Since the internet began it has increasingly encroached into our lives in ways we couldn't possibly have predicted. And the way we interact with it continues to grow.

I just googled the internet to see what would happen and it is far, far more complicated then I could possibly have imagined...and yet, I can still use it and have a working knowledge of it. It's natural to me. What's more, its now natural to my father, and my grandparents, who swore they'd never get a computer because they just didn't need it. Now we do.

Edit: Forgive me, I haven't read the law so I'm not sure if I should be t too alarmed by this, because you don't need that part of the internet. Its handy that it's there, but if it's not, oh well. We could still go and see music and buy art from the people who made it and meet up. If things like Wikipedia or places like this, if free and open discussion and knowledge get attacked by this law then I'm worried...Should I be worried?

JBoy · Post by **JBoy** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:50 pm

LOL this thread sounds like an episode of phoneshop.

Kochari · Post by **Kochari** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:54 pm

JBoy wrote:LOL this thread sounds like an episode of phoneshop.

wormcode · Post by **wormcode** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:01 pm

Nevalo wrote:its actually beginning to scare me how much power the US seems to have in other countries....

The empire strikes back

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 pm

those with the " you can never stop it " attitude got woken up today. a sealed indictment delivered in 8 countries is about a year or more of legal steps before a day like today can happen. they were on this years ago, and just building the case slowly.

collige · Post by **collige** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:05 pm

seckle wrote:those with the " you can never stop it " attitude got woken up today. a sealed indictment delivered in 8 countries is about a year or more of legal steps before a day like today can happen. they were on this years ago, and just building the case slowly.

The indictment charges have very little to do with run of the mill piracy though, not to mention how many other more reputable sites exist out there. I don't see how the arrest of a known crook correlates to stopping piracy by shutting down legitimate websites.

gnome · Post by **gnome** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:10 pm

Kochari wrote: We could still go and see music and buy art from the people who made it and meet up. If things like Wikipedia or places like this, if free and open discussion and knowledge get attacked by this law then I'm worried...Should I be worried?

True but what about people who want to host a file legally? They shouldn't have to suffer because other members upload copyrighted material.

fractal · Post by **fractal** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:15 pm

gnome wrote:
Kochari wrote: We could still go and see music and buy art from the people who made it and meet up. If things like Wikipedia or places like this, if free and open discussion and knowledge get attacked by this law then I'm worried...Should I be worried?
True but what about people who want to host a file legally? They shouldn't have to suffer because other members upload copyrighted material.

exactly. how many legal music files and mixes disappeared today? what will disappear tomorrow?

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