camelphat vs ohmicide

[Eat Bass]

if you had to pick one distortion unit which would it be

[Lectric]

ohmicide is of much higher quality and versatility. get it.

[Eat Bass]

ohmicide is of much higher quality and versatility. get it.

lol i told myself i was only buying one synth and just using stock logic plugs. now I'm looking at ohmicide and sonnox dynamics. next it will be something else...

but yeah ohmicide seems pretty dope, and logics stock distortions are good for subtle grit but IMO not really to smash the sounds like ohmicide could.

also i heard camelphat was a little better for subtle tube warmth and compression, but again i think logic plugs are fine for subtle differences, so I'm leaning towards ohmicide.

[sunny_b_uk]

use camelcrusher, its free. its just missing the exciter, bitcrusher & filters which isnt much at all.

[DubMikey]

Ohmicide all the way. Lovely plug-in.

[atticuh]

use camelcrusher, its free. its just missing the exciter, bitcrusher & filters which isnt much at all.

Camel's filters and distortion units are fantastic, at least from my experience with Alchemy. Not to downplay Ohmicide, because that too is quite an interesting distortion tool, especially since it has MIDI triggering.

[lloydy]

I have both but if i was to have to choose it would be ohmicide.I do use both in most projects but the only reason i have both is because of trouble i had with ohmicide and earlier version of logic.I also have izotope trash which is just as good as ohmicide,in my opinion a few more features but ohmicide just sounds much better.Also ohmicide has the metapatch thing which is the best feature out of all of them and worth buying just for this.

[Eat Bass]

i already have camel crusherand i find it to be okay. i usually use like british clean just to get some tube warmth.

one thing i like about camelphat is the modulation possibilities with the filters and what not.

does ohmicide have a filter and an lfo? i supposed it doesn't matter much because i planned on getting wow filter eventually too.

[lloydy]

i already have camel crusherand i find it to be okay. i usually use like british clean just to get some tube warmth.

one thing i like about camelphat is the modulation possibilities with the filters and what not.

does ohmicide have a filter and an lfo? i supposed it doesn't matter much because i planned on getting wow filter eventually too.

I haven't ever used a filter in ohmicide and am pretty sure it hasn't got one.Izotope trash has very useable built in filters with lfo's

[Eat Bass]

i already have camel crusherand i find it to be okay. i usually use like british clean just to get some tube warmth.

one thing i like about camelphat is the modulation possibilities with the filters and what not.

does ohmicide have a filter and an lfo? i supposed it doesn't matter much because i planned on getting wow filter eventually too.

I haven't ever used a filter in ohmicide and am pretty sure it hasn't got one.Izotope trash has very useable built in filters with lfo's

do you think its better than ohmicide? kind of pricey at 199 though. for that price i could pretty much buy ohmicide + wow filter.

[lloydy]

No it isn't,ohmicide sounds much better imo,izotope trash i find isn't as bright sounding but in all honesty they both have really useable features.If i was you and had to choose i would go with ohmicide but if you ever get the chance to grab trash you should add it to your armoury because it is a really really good plug.

[lloydy]

Izotope plugs are all pretty expensive but are well worth the price,i have trash and ozone and they are both sik.

[Eat Bass]

is ohmicide usable on drums like trash is?

also is izotope useful for compression on individual tracks or is it more just a mastering plug. id imagine it would be cpu heavy to put on a lot of tracks.

in that case, do you think sonnox dynamics is better for individual tracks? and can be thrown on the master as well.

[Hircine]

i already have camel crusherand i find it to be okay. i usually use like british clean just to get some tube warmth.

one thing i like about camelphat is the modulation possibilities with the filters and what not.

does ohmicide have a filter and an lfo? i supposed it doesn't matter much because i planned on getting wow filter eventually too.

WOW filter is awesome, get it.

[lloydy]

Ohmicide is usable on any material you want to distort.It has a 4 channels to distort different bands each with their own mix knobs to control the ammount you want to distort.Also there is a wet/dry knob for the overall effect of the plug so you have a lot of control over how subtle you want it to sound.
I am gonna presume you are talking about izotope ozone when you ask about compression,all of ozones features are good at what they do,i don't tend to use the compressor with it though because i have waves api bundle which is really good and tend to use logic's compressor a lot.Ozones limiter and mid/side processing is what make that plug really good,the limiter is really really clean sounding compared to logic's adative limiter but saying that i still use both.
I have never used any sonnox plugs so couldn't really comment,i have only really just come to the point where i have a go a self mastering for showing freinds and all that ish so normally i use ozone on my master but just for subtle limiting and maybe a tiny bit of eq,i am no pro and find the whole getting the mix to sound good a fucking nightmare.I only really buy plugs now if i think i will use them tbh.
My best advice would be download trials you will get a much better idea of what you want to use by actually using it for a while.

[lloydy]

Wow filter is very good but logic's autofilter is really good too,learn to do subtle bandpass filtering with autofilter and you can get some really nice growls.

[Eat Bass]

i like to automate the channel eq for notch and band pass filters honestly. idk i just feel like i have more control and i can visualize what part of the sound i want to effect better, yanno?

and yeah i don't plan on getting izotope for a while, i was just wondering. i may get the sonnox dynamics plug cuz the compression/limiter combo look really nice on that one and theres a nice function where you can get your limiter to catch the things the compressor misses to avoid squashing the shit out of the sound, i saw a nice video on it before.

but so looks like ohmicide is my next venture. i will definitely use ohmicide for sure...like i said logics stock distortion units are okay but i don't really like them that much and I'm looking for an all in one unit.

and by the way, while were talking about frequency bands. can i ask you a question? lately iv been getting into splitting my basses into low mid high to add fx more precisely. but i have a couple of concerns. would ohmicide be good to put on each band in different ways obv? but if i remember correctly ohmicide has sort of its own freq splitting, so essentially couldn't i just put ohmicide on the original, or?

also my other concern is that i usually make a separate sub bass to go under my bass that i frequency split. then i usually end up high passing the low band of my bass at about 80-100hz or whatever so my separate sub bass has room. so my low band of the bass is really about 100-300hz with some tube warmth. is this good practice in having that small lower band of frequencies over my sub bass, then the mid band and high obv. i hope I'm making sense. and yeah I'm asking here because i didn't feel like making another thread.

[lloydy]

If i frequency split i use logic's built in multipressor on each channel select the band i want to split then solo.I have a logic template set up where i have 3-4 busses set up like this ready for when/if i want to split.
I would of thought yes you can add ohmicide to each of the split bands,i couldn't see why not.The wet/dry control knob stops everything from getting to messy anyway so try it and see what happens.Ohmicide just gives you an option to add different distortions to different parts of the spectrum,again you can solo these bands to work on individually.
You could just put ohmicide on the original and distort different bands but then you will miss out on adding all the other effects like flanger,phaser.....which you can do when you properly frequency split.

Listen layering is the key to getting big sounds,if when you layer you sub bass it sounds to messy high pass your mid bass a touch more,the key to making good bass layered bass sounds is if it sounds good to you use it.I read this artical once that said a good way of telling if your kik and sub are seperate is to lowpass everything down to about 60 hz and you should here nothing other than your sub,if your kik is slightly present then they are gonna clash and it will more than likely sound muddy down there so i would of thought you could use this to check if your bass sounds are clashing too.Again i'm no pro you will have to try and see.

[Eat Bass]

alright thanks ill try that.

btw i meant use the ohmicide on the original through a bus because you can still effect the original signal even if you freq split but i think it only gives you the wet signal but you can adjust the amount with sends, not sure if you follow me, but whatever that parts not really important just thinking out loud.

when i freq split i use the channel eq, should i try and use the multiprocessor, or? also, did you follow me in the sense that i split my bass into low, mid, high. then i add a separate sub layer, so theres 4 layers all together. but the low band of my bass i high pass it at 80hz or so its just that 100-300 warmth ontop of the sub layer. i just wasn't sure if that was common practice, but i feel like its nice because i can leave my sub bass as a clean sine and effect just above it for a tad bit of color.

btw i just got logic a couple of weeks ago so I'm still pretty new to it. coming from reason.

[Augment]

Ohmicide is just lovely <3 Buy it