producing at 280 bpm??

coogcoo · Post by **coogcoo** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:40 am

it doesnt rly do anything but give you finer resolution on a step sequencer (fl studio) but i was just curious if anyone else does this??

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:45 am

never tried, it seems counterintuitive if your trying to make something sound 140 just make it at 140 simples as that

Hircine · Post by **Hircine** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:56 am

I heard Nile produces at 280 bpm

OllieScott · Post by **OllieScott** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:00 am

ehbrums1 wrote:never tried, it seems counterintuitive if your trying to make something sound 140 just make it at 140 simples as that

if you making dubstep, technically its sounds like its 70 because of the half time beats.

producing at 280 can be useful for trying glitchy stuff, being able to get faster hits in etc

Sexual_Chocolate · Post by **Sexual_Chocolate** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:02 am

LOL

why dont you just produce at 700bpm?

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:06 am

OllieScott wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:never tried, it seems counterintuitive if your trying to make something sound 140 just make it at 140 simples as that
if you making dubstep, technically its sounds like its 70 because of the half time beats.

producing at 280 can be useful for trying glitchy stuff, being able to get faster hits in etc

yes it sound like 70 but the genre is at 140 so why not make it at 140 thats all I'm saying. all it is is just making you notes shorter or longer in relation to 140

e-motion · Post by **e-motion** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:36 am

Bah it's already confusing to me producing at half-step (4/4 producer here), at quarter-step I would fry my brain.

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:24 am

but you can still build awsome beats in 140. if you want faster hits just put those hits where u can change em to sixteenths or even thirty second notes. Ive never gone that fast with any genre. highest ive gone is 190. thats how I would appraoch this tho.

MassAphekt · Post by **MassAphekt** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:46 am

I always thought moombahton producers would produce around 200-220 just to achieve greater detailing in their mixes, definitely gonna try this on a track

glottis5 · Post by **glottis5** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:48 am

just go in the piano roll and draw notes in at a higher resolution? i do it with double/triple time hi-hat/snare rolls all the time

Artie_Fufkin · Post by **Artie_Fufkin** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:06 am

I've come across a few Renoise projects that were wizzing by and had a lot of small glitchy drum stuff. But that was for IDM, not dubstep

If that helps you make more creative music, then by all means try it! I tried making a song one time at 170bpm for some dnb stuff and I cranked out some beats and noises for that pretty fast(that could be because of Renoise more than the fast tempo but it did help) and then I slowed it down to 140 and it was pretty fat.

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:06 am

i've done it, but i always try to pack way too much percussion in as it is...

also done dnb at 340~50

baboon2525 · Post by **baboon2525** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:51 am

Um, producing at 140 or 280 is really the same thing, just one is twice as fast. Start at 140, and quantise with twice the precision (eg 1/32 instead of 1/16). You're still making a 140 tune, I presume, so no need to double the tempo if all you want to do is use 1/32 notes instead of 1/16 notes. Otherwise it's overly confusing, cos you'll need to adjust your kick/snare patterns to stretch over twice the number of bars, and there's no need to make stuff so difficult for yourself.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:56 pm

If you're building your beats on the step sequencer in FL, then using 280bpm is justified, same with if you use a tracker (like Renoise) 280 can give you better resolutions for composition.

Its not really a huge deal - just a workflow technique.

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:57 pm

coogcoo wrote:it doesnt rly do anything but give you finer resolution on a step sequencer (fl studio) but i was just curious if anyone else does this??

You could just the piano roll to place your beats and adjust the spacing on the grid accordingly...or turn the grid off altogether.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:01 pm

When working on the piano roll for drums, it can be a bit of a pain in the arse to make subtle changes as its just midi notes and you have to find the right points you want to change, I find this time wasting and vibe killing; this is why i opt for placing audio in the sequencer and use automation for velocity/panning changes.

piano roll drum building is not the one (for me) and i'm sure a lot of other people.

Volatile Psycle · Post by **Volatile Psycle** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:08 pm

Can see why people would do it because by setting your DAW up at 280bpm you can essentially get 1/128th notes, which I think some daws can't do at 140bpm (1/64 max)

drake89 · Post by **drake89** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:31 pm

this is why I like how ableton has the *2 and :2 buttons, half time and double time. I don't usually even bother making new drum clips, just speed em up. 4x time even sounds reasonable when you're starting with 1/4 notes.

Killamike49 · Post by **Killamike49** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:46 pm

Volatile Psycle wrote:Can see why people would do it because by setting your DAW up at 280bpm you can essentially get 1/128th notes, which I think some daws can't do at 140bpm (1/64 max)

Or you could just turn the snap off.

Dystinkt · Post by **Dystinkt** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:49 pm

already been done bro, 280 bpms known as boombahstep, its the new 140. Theres gonna be our very first BMZ night on soon

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