can this be done??

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:54 pm

k so I have this synth i made but its got 2 sounds to it. The prominent one and on a little pushed back in the sound(Im only usin 1 synthesizer). What im wondering is it possible to completely remove the prominent sound to have the more subtle sound as a seperate patch? Ive tried to remake it but couldnt get close enough for my liking. Ive tried to use the synthesizer itself to get rid of it, and ive tried resampling it although i have very little resampling experience.

Hopefully I can get this done with only reason and audacity? maybe

haha any help would be awsome

thanks

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:05 pm

you said your using reason which synth thor? you do know you can turn oscillators off right?

motox2121 · Post by **motox2121** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:41 pm

or turn its amp completely down

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:06 am

no, im on malstrom. ya thats the first thing i thought of but when i turn one off it doesnt sound like the right sound at all

Hircine · Post by **Hircine** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:17 am

split yo frequencies yo. Or, if you can pan the oscillators, send one to left, one to right, bounce a stereo and split in two mono files.

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:20 am

damn thatd prob work haha but actually i got purdy dam close to the sound i wanted. thanks.

so im gonna jack my own thread cuz i have another problem with a synth in my same tune

. aight so i have a metallic womp sound that I split and put a distortion unit on the mids and highs to give it a harder sound. Its also has lfo wavetype and rate automated and its clipping massively. Ive tried to compress it with my very little knowledge of how to properly use compression for my circumstance. I do know what it is and does,but not entirely sure how to use it. everytime i try reading articles and tutorials its all so confusing to me. Ive managed to get good at mixing each sound so it doesnt peak,clip or clash so I havent really needed compression all that much. any help would be appreciated

Eat Bass · Post by **Eat Bass** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:34 am

if its clipping turn it down more

you can use a bit of compression to smooth out the sound and get it sounding more solid, and then a tad bit of limiting to catch those peaks. but ideally you just want to turn it down to a reasonable level so its not peaking. its not really good practice to take something thats clipped to shit and just compress/limit it so its not.

also try turning down your shit at the beginning of the signal chain...ie right out of the synth or maybe its a scream4 thats making your shit too loud.

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:51 am

scream gives me that great feel but ill try to make sonethin similiar with just the synthesizer. even if i turn it down it will still jump very high in volume and causing a muddy bass thump. It sound like its at the first of the note or the end of the note. not sure

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:01 am

Zkeeto wrote:scream gives me that great feel but ill try to make sonethin similiar with just the synthesizer.

Why man? Maybe control the signal before it gets to the scream, and then maybe a little control coming out of scream should do the trick. Honestly, it sounds like you've got major problems with your gain staging. Read the moneyshot thread, it will make your life so much easier, and save you years of fucking up.

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:52 pm

well I hardly ever get clippinng and when I do, I can usually stop it but this synth is clipping massively even after ive tried to stop it. Ive read the moneyshot thread several times. How would i control the signal? can you explain please?

KoenDercksen · Post by **KoenDercksen** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:09 pm

edit

sorry stupid post i should have read more

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:52 pm

Zkeeto wrote:well I hardly ever get clippinng and when I do, I can usually stop it but this synth is clipping massively even after ive tried to stop it. Ive read the moneyshot thread several times. How would i control the signal? can you explain please?

If you've read (and understood) the moneyshot thread, you should know. You should be working at an appropriate level so that nothing comes even remotely close to clipping. If your sounds are that loud, you are working too loud. Turn everything down, and turn your speakers up. That is the first thing. It is really simple, some people, it seems, just cannot do this. I don't know why.

The second thing, if your sound is highly dynamic coming out of maelstrom, try a little compression and or limiting to reduce the peaks. Then run that signal into your fx like scream, and then if scream is increasing the dynamic range, then try a little more compression and or limiting to again reduce the peaks. Are you using extremely resonant filters?

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:00 pm

no, i have almost no res. I am working in low levels. I know the importance of gain and headroom. i dont think it has anything to do with that. even when i turn that sound way down to the point of not hearing it through the other sounds it will still massively jump in the main mixer. All my channels are given the appropriate levels and gain but this one sound is fucked

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:09 pm

Fucked it is then!

Zkeeto · Post by **Zkeeto** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:24 pm

well i meant that figuretively lol. i really want it to work. ill go attack it again in a few and see what i can do

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