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Dubstep's History...

Post by DoubleSided » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:37 pm

How far back does dubstep go?

I've just seen this advertised...http://bandonthewall.org/events/3364/ and was wondering if it'd be vaguely interesting or whether it's just a cash-in to get a new generation into old music?

What do you think?

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Post by particle-jim » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:18 pm

I think that mad professor thing looks like bit of a cash in though mad proffesor is more associated with straight dub/roots music anyways...

if you want to know about the roots of dubstep buy this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roots-Dubstep-V ... B000H1C442

And buy then watch this too:
http://www.bassweightdvd.com/
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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by Riddles » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:20 pm

cant recommend bass weight enough. such a good documentary
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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by jsml » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:24 pm

Definitley buy In Fine Style, that is the birth of "dubstep" if you ask me.

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Post by Sonika » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:27 pm

Riddles wrote:cant recommend bass weight enough. such a good documentary

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Post by garethom » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:41 pm

Invented in 2008 when somebody accidentally played DnB at 33rpm instead of 45 and the CD (or "dubplate") got scratched and kicked out all these weird noises. This was called a "Rusko".

It was popularised in it's spiritual home, Oceana in Reading.

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Post by jinxkal » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Listen to In Fine Style, watch the Bass Weight Doc and come to SYSTEM:Sound nights...

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Post by blackdown » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:52 pm

2000 is a fairly good starting point. Ghost 001 "The Club" by El-B, people like Horsepower, Zed Bias, Artwork etc...
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Post by Sonika » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:54 pm

blackdown wrote:2000 is a fairly good starting point. Ghost 001 "The Club" by El-B, people like Horsepower, Zed Bias, Artwork etc...

...Skream? A bit later but still one of the originators?
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Post by garethom » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:58 pm

Sonika wrote:
blackdown wrote:2000 is a fairly good starting point. Ghost 001 "The Club" by El-B, people like Horsepower, Zed Bias, Artwork etc...

...Skream? A bit later but still one of the originators?
Gotta listen to the guys who influenced him though.

Guess that's how I found out so much about dubstep/'nuum. Found someone I liked and worked back through their influences >>> their influences >>> their influences >>> their influences >>> and that's why I spend too much money each month on jungle vinyl from discogs.

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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by jsml » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:01 pm

garethom wrote:... worked back through their influences >>> their influences >>> their influences >>> their influences >>> and that's why I spend too much money each month on jungle vinyl from discogs.
I hear you brother.

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Post by Sonika » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:06 pm

:lol: I looked back way too far and now I blow all my money on Mozart.
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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by alphacat » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:49 pm

Mad Professor also tried to hitch a little publicity from Jungle back inna day too; nonetheless, his live mix skills can't be disputed. I think a lot of the roots oldtimers still want the youth dem to recognize where all of this comes from [in their minds] - sound system culture.

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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by ultraspatial » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:01 pm

lol definitely a cash grab
alphacat wrote:I think a lot of the roots oldtimers still want the youth dem to recognize where all of this comes from [in their minds] - sound system culture.
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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by jsml » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:06 pm

alphacat wrote:Mad Professor also tried to hitch a little publicity from Jungle back inna day too
in fairness though, there are some killer tunes on that jungle album he did.

and both scientist and lee perry have messed around with dubstep too, i don't really think they're "cashing in", it's just a logical progression.

not heard the mad professor stuff so i can't comment, but a lot of dub/reggae these days is leaning towards dubstep anyway, especcially the "steppas" kind of sound.

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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by Shum » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:07 pm

I wouldn't mind going to that gig, Mad Professor is the man. :lol: :U:

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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by Muncey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:16 pm

I watched the Addison Groove Redbull Lecture and he said he listens to like 60s African music and gets his inspiration from there, especially for the percussian. He doesn't listen or take any real influences from dance music anymore. It's fascinating seeing where individual artists get their influences from. The history of dubstep has been spoken about a billion times, its pretty heavily documented now.. the history of individuals and their inspirations is much more interesting.

Appleblims was an interesting watch as well. Highly advise them both along with Mala & Kode9s.

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Post by Sonika » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:21 pm

Kode9 has a Redbull Lecture? I gotta get on that!

But yeah, Mala's is great. Skream's is pretty interesting too.
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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by ultraspatial » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:23 pm

Muncey wrote:I watched the Addison Groove Redbull Lecture and he said he listens to like 60s African music and gets his inspiration from there, especially for the percussian. He doesn't listen or take any real influences from dance music anymore. It's fascinating seeing where individual artists get their influences from. The history of dubstep has been spoken about a billion times, its pretty heavily documented now.. the history of individuals and their inspirations is much more interesting.

Appleblims was an interesting watch as well. Highly advise them both along with Mala & Kode9s.
+ Ramadanman and Appleblim's

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Re: Dubstep's History...

Post by Muncey » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:32 pm

ultraspatial wrote:
Muncey wrote:I watched the Addison Groove Redbull Lecture and he said he listens to like 60s African music and gets his inspiration from there, especially for the percussian. He doesn't listen or take any real influences from dance music anymore. It's fascinating seeing where individual artists get their influences from. The history of dubstep has been spoken about a billion times, its pretty heavily documented now.. the history of individuals and their inspirations is much more interesting.

Appleblims was an interesting watch as well. Highly advise them both along with Mala & Kode9s.
+ Ramadanman and Appleblim's
Forgot about Ramadanmans, that was another good one. Had to turn the Skream one off, was really awkward.. felt quite bad for Skream he was clearly shy and nervous and the woman interviewing just kept saying "expand on that" and he just looked confused.

Sonika wrote:Kode9 has a Redbull Lecture? I gotta get on that!

But yeah, Mala's is great. Skream's is pretty interesting too.
Yeah its decent, although the bloke annoyed me.. he was banging his head HARD to every tune Kode9 played. He played one of his tunes which was just a bassline with Spaceape over it and then he played another but a really upbeat tune.

He bopped his head the exact same way to both, it felt really forced and fake.
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