Playing out - do you DJ for free?

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Playing out - do you DJ for free?

Post by neonriddims » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:10 am

Just wondering, do you people charge money for DJ gigs?

Personally, I ask for a fee when I'm playing out. My records don't buy themselves and neither do headphones, decks etc. Also, I feel if the promoter is making a lot of money from a night I deserve my cut. I don't charge for free parties, house parties etc. because noone is making any money.

How about you guys (or girls)?
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Post by wub » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:45 am

If the party makes money, the DJ should make money - even if it's only covering the cost of travel and a couple of beers.

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Post by pete_bubonic » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:21 am

wub wrote:If the party makes money, the DJ should make money - even if it's only covering the cost of travel and a couple of beers.
this is the one. I've gone from doing alright on the 'scene' and earning 300/350 a set right back down to fuck all. Always get transport and some drinks covered though, that's just polite.
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Re: Playing out - do you DJ for free?

Post by vSquared » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:51 pm

If it's a free / charity rave then yes. Else, minimum = taxi & a few free drinks.

Also i've djed for free when b2b mates (who were getting paid) as I'm not actually billed but they ask me to jump on :D
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Post by apmje » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:09 pm

I'd play for free as long as they cover my travel and gave me somewhere to sleep.

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Post by dubloke » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:18 pm

vSquared wrote:If it's a free / charity rave then yes. Else, minimum = taxi & a few free drinks.
Pretty much, normally get between £30-£50 a set if I do get paid. I always find it really awkward asking for money after I've said I'll do a set. Started asking how much I'll get before I say yes now
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Post by pete_bubonic » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:39 pm

Not going to lie, me and a few other people in bristol started asking for minimum fees for charity gigs. It's annoying because normal promoters can easily use and abuse certain charity names and events to make running a night cost fuck all and still take a profit themselves (under the name of 'running costs'). Fuck that.
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Post by pete_bubonic » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:40 pm

Anyway, Imma stop talking the big game now, I've been booked 3 times this year for zero moula. :D woi oi.
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Post by joeki » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:45 pm

Free drinks are a given. Any night we put up DJ and guests drink for free, plus we've always payed the amounts promised and took care of travel expenses. But as a small organisation, who do know quite a few people amongst the four of us, we've managed to get a few good deals over the years and dealing with people personally instead of agents (this backfired only once with Mick J. Harris/scorn).
Helps to have your own venue as well.

I myself play for free almost always (drinks excluded). I play serato so I don't really consider it DJ'ing as such.

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Post by Immerse » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:18 am

joeki wrote:I play serato so I don't really consider it DJ'ing as such.
....i think you should give yourself a little more credit... :roll:
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Re: Playing out - do you DJ for free?

Post by Soiree » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:04 am

I DO, but I love my local scene and don't feel the inclination to ask to be paid, as I'm fairly inexperienced, after I get Serato, it'll be a different story.
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Post by fractal » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:24 am

for people & events I love, yes
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Post by danny_scrilla » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:35 am

To be honest I think there is something severely wrong with playing for free. I mean I understand that you can't charge much when you're just starting to play gigs...travelling expenses, accomodation and drinks should always be covered (ideally a little bit of money ontop of that). There are just too many Djs willing to play for free...and of course some promoters will go for those people instead of DJs who want to get paid. I've turned down a few gigs because of that...and it's not only about the money...it's about appreciation of what you do.

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Post by foxtrot » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:53 am

^^^^^^^^^^this.
I dont think anyone should be djing for free unless its a house party or there is no money being made on the party.
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Re: Playing out - do you DJ for free?

Post by apmje » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:24 am

What about to get ourselves in the door and get some experience?

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Post by wub » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:42 am

apmje wrote:What about to get ourselves in the door and get some experience?
wub wrote:If the party makes money, the DJ should make money - even if it's only covering the cost of travel and a couple of beers.

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Post by neonriddims » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:47 am

Wub wrote:If the party makes money, the DJ should make money - even if it's only covering the cost of travel and a couple of beers.
Danny Scrilla wrote:it's not only about the money...it's about appreciation of what you do
these pretty much sum up my feelings.


The reason I asked is because I turned down a fairly large gig (large student rave, couple of thousand people, the event is already sold out) the other day. I was initially very happy they asked me to play, but when they did not want to give me one extra ticket and free drinks, never mind a fee, I just felt like I was being swindled. Expecially since I know they have a budget of tens of thousands of euros. They seemd to be geniunely surprised at the fact I 'turned down this opportunity' so I wondered: Am I an idiot or are they a bunch of greedy tnucs?

I throw my own parties and always pay the DJ's a fee, they also get guestlist spots and free drinks during the night. Height of the fee depends on the amount of money I expect to make from tocket sales but I like to pay sometinhg, just to show my appreciation.
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Post by wub » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:53 am

neonriddims wrote:The reason I asked is because I turned down a fairly large gig (large student rave, couple of thousand people, the event is already sold out) the other day. I was initially very happy they asked me to play, but when they did not want to give me one extra ticket and free drinks, never mind a fee, I just felt like I was being swindled. Expecially since I know they have a budget of tens of thousands of euros. They seemd to be geniunely surprised at the fact I 'turned down this opportunity' so I wondered: Am I an idiot or are they a bunch of greedy tnucs?

That sounds like they're taking the piss a bit TBH mate...they wouldn't try the same shit with the security team.


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Re: Playing out - do you DJ for free?

Post by scattybeanhead » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:57 am

lol there's no way i'd ask for a fee, but that's mainly cos im not exactly amazing. i'll always offer to play for free just cos i want to and usually i'll get free beers and something small like 10/20 quid which im very happy with!
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Post by LA_Boxers » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:07 am

@neonriddims - Yeah sounds like theyre taking the piss a bit there. Should at least be offering you something if theyre making a truck load of cash.

Generally for us its like what everyone else has said. Will generally play for travel/accomodation/beers, but if somebodys willing to pay then we wont turn it down. Most we've picked up is £200 but that included travel and accomodation. So made about £100 after paying out for hotel and petrol.
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