Any programmers / web devs / Linux users up in this bitch?

[bjackman]

Just curious if there's anyone else out there geeking the fuck out err day of their life?

Any Linux users out there? Any vim users? Anyone developing for Android? Anyone sick at Bash scripting? Perl? C?

I'm learning Java and Python, shit is pretty fun. Still yet to learn any C, which probably isn't great, but I suppose I'll have to do that next year of uni. I made a shite website as well (doesn't work in Internet Explorer hee hee). (for a project with my group at uni including a Latvian somellier). Just today found out about CMSs like Drupal. Woud have

[NilsFG]

I study computer science at uni so yeah. I think fractal's a dev too since I always see him posting things about his frustrations with SQL.

[mks]

I just had a Linux class last quarter and really got into it. I am now thinking about getting my Linux + certification in order to be a junior Linux admin.

So far I have been working with Linux Mint, Ubuntu Server, Debian and a couple of small distros like Tiny Core and Puppy.

[wormcode]

Yeah been coding and hacking around *nix environments since I was 13 or so. Studied C++ for a few years, used to code custom VB apps for people to make cash as a teen and very familiar with several web languages too. I had decided I didn't want a future in programming though and stopped a few years ago. I kind of regret not pursuing it. A few schools have been calling me to get back into it, but if anything I'd rather do it online these days. These days I mostly do web development related stuff. I also have done admin work for gaming companies and ran their servers/sites/forums and all that.

I still run Slackware, have an older SuSE system and a small Puppy laptop I mess around with.
I'm a command-line geek so I'm one of the people who hates and talks shit about Ubuntu as it reminds me of lame Lindows (anyone remember that?), but Linux Mint is a good improvement on Ubuntu/Debian. I'm also a really big fan of Backtrack and DEFT, and Knoppix as far as Live Linux goes.

[mks]

Yeah my class was strictly command line in order to train as a Linux server admin. Ubuntu Server is strictly command line unless you add a GUI to it. Linux Mint definitely has a lot of features and ease of use for new Linux users.

Have you ever played around with Arch Linux Wormcode? I'm thinking of trying that distro next.

[NilsFG]

Lindows was buttfucking ugly. Was a good idea though but that's all.
Ubuntu is alright imo, but I'm not a big fan of linux anymore since GNOME3.
I feel violated when I use it. I can't stand KDE for some reason, and all the other UI's are lacking.
CLI's are handy and powerful, but when I'm not coding or messing around with servers and shit I just want a normal GUI

And wormcode you should've done compusci.

[wormcode]

Have you ever played around with Arch Linux Wormcode? I'm thinking of trying that distro next.

Funny you mentioned it, I'm working on a hardware experiment/project with a startup company this year that will use modified Arch as its core OS. I chose Arch because it's minimal and rock solid. It's quite like Slackware, except the type of hardware we're working with conflicts with Slack so I picked Arch instead. I've used Arch a few times other than that, but mostly just when experimenting with distros and found it similar to Slack. I used to love ZIPSlack because it was one of the few ways I could use those damn ZIP drives laying around haha. It was kind of like the first Linux Live distro in a way. http://lifehacker.com/5680453/build-a-k ... he-process

And wormcode you should've done compusci.

Still might get into something, but probably more to do with web development. Such powerful web based languages now that can even be used for standalone software. I was the master HTML geek back in school, so been looking to get deeper into HTML5 now.

[knell]

javascript/RoR/C++ here

been so busy with other work and DSF'n that i've gotten rusty... still lots of fun though.

out to all the java heads working on minecraft mods too, some amazing stuff they've come up with

[Sintax makes bass]

xfce > gnome + kde
c++ > java
xhtml > html
linux > all

[wormcode]

I always liked fluxbox/blackbox and nextstep and afterstep. Ice is pretty nice too.
For fun, Compiz aka Beryl is a nice way to waste resources haha.
On Windows it's all about bblean http://bb4win.sourceforge.net/
and Deskspace as an alternative to Compiz for Win. I find the rotating desktops more useful on Win though since there's not multiple desktops already.

[bjackman]

Have you ever played around with Arch Linux Wormcode? I'm thinking of trying that distro next.

Funny you mentioned it, I'm working on a hardware experiment/project with a startup company this year that will use modified Arch as its core OS. I chose Arch because it's minimal and rock solid. It's quite like Slackware, except the type of hardware we're working with conflicts with Slack so I picked Arch instead. I've used Arch a few times other than that, but mostly just when experimenting with distros and found it similar to Slack.

Wasn't it a bit of a problem using Arch as the OS for a proper project, it having a rolling-release schedule and such? I would have thought Debian was the minimal distro of choice for things that actually matter!

By the way though, Arch is fucking beautiful - I'm writing from it now. After alot of environment hopping, mostly using FluxBox/LXDE, XFCE, or pure window managers like FVWM (yeah, FVWM in 2011! it's still maintained!) and i3 (tiling WM. Really nice, but ultimately a bit too minimal for me) I'm actually starting to settle into KDE, since I have alot of resources to waste! The window manager actually uses hardware acceleration through OpenGL! Still, I've been really impressed with things like KIO (I think it's called that.. basically it's the KDE equivalent of the Gnome Virtual Filesystem, it allows transparrent access of files accross networks and such, e.g. I can just open up "ftp:///my/files/at/uni" and treat them exactly as if they were stored locally - even opening and editing them with autosave and all).

Anyway that was a pretty boring paragraph... Clearly I have archlinux-telleveryone-itis. Anyone here writing Android apps? I'm planning to start one ASAP, probably just gona write some useless ones like chat clients to get started.

[slothrop]

Yeah, I'm in software. Mainly writing Python although I'll use the odd bit of C++ under duress. Although as with a lot of things, the actual language seems irrelevant a lot of the time. And I'm planning to have a look at Clojure in my own time, specifically to try working with the Overtone music project.

I'm on an ubuntu box at work, although my desktop tends to have firefox, several dozen terminal windows with ssh sessions to dev boxes, and not much else. Somehow Unity still manages to piss me off, though. I'm not really a Linux geek, though, I just use it, so I can't really be bothered fiddling around with different distros in the hope that one of them will bring me inner fulfillment or something.

Oh, and emacs.

[NilsFG]

Yeah, I'm in software. Mainly writing Python although I'll use the odd bit of C++ under duress. Although as with a lot of things, the actual language seems irrelevant a lot of the time. And I'm planning to have a look at Clojure in my own time, specifically to try working with the Overtone music project.

I'm on an ubuntu box at work, although my desktop tends to have firefox, several dozen terminal windows with ssh sessions to dev boxes, and not much else. Somehow Unity still manages to piss me off, though. I'm not really a Linux geek, though, I just use it, so I can't really be bothered fiddling around with different distros in the hope that one of them will bring me inner fulfillment or something.

Oh, and emacs.

Clojure is fun. As is Racket. Scheme is cool too but R6RS is weird and R5RS misses a lot of features so you end up importing a huge amount of stuff from Racket anyways.

[Riddles]

Computer Scientist here. so i know C, C++, Java, HTML, PHP, Prolog and I'm currently learning Ruby, which seems amazing tbh.

As for linux, I've used Ubuntu and CentOS, prefer CentOS but using Ubuntu as i just run it in a VM and i had Ubuntu to hand.

[wormcode]

Have you ever played around with Arch Linux Wormcode? I'm thinking of trying that distro next.

Funny you mentioned it, I'm working on a hardware experiment/project with a startup company this year that will use modified Arch as its core OS. I chose Arch because it's minimal and rock solid. It's quite like Slackware, except the type of hardware we're working with conflicts with Slack so I picked Arch instead. I've used Arch a few times other than that, but mostly just when experimenting with distros and found it similar to Slack.

Wasn't it a bit of a problem using Arch as the OS for a proper project, it having a rolling-release schedule and such? I would have thought Debian was the minimal distro of choice for things that actually matter!

Not really for this. Once the required software/packages are on there that's it. It's used more as a back-end or background service type thing that is just used to run custom software. Once it's working, there would be no updating required as it's a standalone system. Similar to how a lot of TVs or DVD players these days run linux, but the user never has to actually interact with the OS, only the custom front-end. Still experimenting and might try out other distros, but Arch is good so far. Another one I tried was DSL which is Debian based but it wasn't quite right. It's fun to play with though: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org

[bjackman]

Have you ever played around with Arch Linux Wormcode? I'm thinking of trying that distro next.

Funny you mentioned it, I'm working on a hardware experiment/project with a startup company this year that will use modified Arch as its core OS. I chose Arch because it's minimal and rock solid. It's quite like Slackware, except the type of hardware we're working with conflicts with Slack so I picked Arch instead. I've used Arch a few times other than that, but mostly just when experimenting with distros and found it similar to Slack.

Wasn't it a bit of a problem using Arch as the OS for a proper project, it having a rolling-release schedule and such? I would have thought Debian was the minimal distro of choice for things that actually matter!

Not really for this. Once the required software/packages are on there that's it. It's used more as a back-end or background service type thing that is just used to run custom software. Once it's working, there would be no updating required as it's a standalone system. Similar to how a lot of TVs or DVD players these days run linux, but the user never has to actually interact with the OS, only the custom front-end. Still experimenting and might try out other distros, but Arch is good so far. Another one I tried was DSL which is Debian based but it wasn't quite right. It's fun to play with though: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org

Ah fair play. What was the project? Emebedded Linux is weird! I've been playing around with Android trying to get Bash to run and it's all different!

It seems like DSL isn't maintained any more, which is sad.


Clojure and Lisp are weird too, I feel i need to try some functional programming!

Has anyone ever used SuperCollider?

[slothrop]

Clojure and Lisp are weird too, I feel i need to try some functional programming!

Has anyone ever used SuperCollider?

I think it's the audio engine behind overtone, so that could be fun...

Random question for linux heads: does bash scripting ever start to seem elegant? I mean, I had to hack around with some Perl yesterday, and because I'm not familiar with it all the syntax felt weird and clunky, but you get the impression that once you get used to the syntax you end up seeing the whole thing as being fairly clean and logical. Whereas however much I write bash scripts, they feel like they're always going to be a bit clunky and awkward, even once you get used to the syntax. Possibly because trying to make a programming language by bolting flow control onto a CLI is (as Steve Taylor said of C++) like trying to make an octopus by nailing extra legs onto a dog. Has anyone done serious amounts of bash scripting and can you confirm or deny this?

[daeMTHAFKNkim]

I r3c0mm3nd #M4$$!V3.

I've messed with C++ and some other programs alike for a game server I was trying to make a couple years back. Changed up codes and junk but that's all I've done. Was pretty fun/interesting and was thinking of going to college for that but I fucked up in high school so I would have to go to a community college.

What's the classes/degree?

[Shum]

^ CompSci/Software Engineering?

Deserves a mention: ChucK