How do i get rid of that bass whistle on soundcloud?

barber · Post by **barber** » Mon May 07, 2012 3:18 pm

this whistle noise is really starting to get on my nerves, i know that they are played at a lower quality on the internet but is there anyway to avoid it?

thanks

KoenDercksen · Post by **KoenDercksen** » Mon May 07, 2012 3:21 pm

...? Care to elaborate?

barber · Post by **barber** » Mon May 07, 2012 3:41 pm

http://soundcloud.com/fourtwo-uk/whats-up-pedro

well this is one of mine and the kick and sub bass are making whistley noises
is it just my mix downs or is there something i can do?

Cubicle · Post by **Cubicle** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:01 pm

Honestly, I can't hear some whistling.

Major hint: if there are little crackles, little whistles that you can hear but are really low, leave them. Gives the music some 'soul'.
Just my 2 cents tho, I love my music with a raw edge to it.

Nice track tho, that kick sits perfect.

AxeD · Post by **AxeD** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:05 pm

Should be your mixdown, although it could also be your speakers.
Do you have acces to a spectrum analyzer? Maybe it's visible and you could try n cut it.

Nice tune btw but my Xone headphones don't even project the sub so I can't hear it

Aufnahmewindwuschel · Post by **Aufnahmewindwuschel** » Mon May 07, 2012 4:13 pm

i had this with cheaper pc monitors compared to my headphones some really high noise but even if i cutted at 100 hertz in the orginal file
aslong as you dont hear it in your 320 or wav its from downgrading i guess
but i didnt hear it too in you tune maybe its something with your speakers

Augment · Post by **Augment** » Mon May 07, 2012 5:10 pm

Didn't hear it, must be something wrong with your speaker setup/headphones

barber · Post by **barber** » Mon May 07, 2012 5:14 pm

cheers everyone, must just be my speakers and the downgrading of putting up on soundcloud
safe

StratosFear · Post by **StratosFear** » Mon May 07, 2012 6:06 pm

No, I hear it. I think it's the downgrading of Soundcloud, plus some sort of really harsh limiter. It happens with a lot of deep sounds. I don't really think there's anything you can do about it.

Erisol · Post by **Erisol** » Mon May 07, 2012 6:29 pm

I've experienced the same thing before, at least I'm assuming it's the same thing I haven't listened yet. In this older song of mine it's very apparent
Soundcloud

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon May 07, 2012 6:32 pm

buy real webhosting and host your own stuff along with your own applet for making stuff streamable?

oh and soundcloud streams at 128kbps, so you could preview your recording at that before uploading (also don't upload already squashed files to be transcoded)

Soulstep · Post by **Soulstep** » Mon May 07, 2012 7:16 pm

I'm sure dithering is meant to make your music sound better at lower quality ??

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon May 07, 2012 7:24 pm

http://www.earlevel.com/main/1996/10/20/what-is-dither/

Soulstep · Post by **Soulstep** » Mon May 07, 2012 8:09 pm

deadly habit wrote:http://www.earlevel.com/main/1996/10/20/what-is-dither/

always wondered what dithering does, sounds like white noise(probably is).

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Mon May 07, 2012 10:26 pm

I've been reading up on this, as soundcloud has destroyed a few of my tunes with their compression. From what i gather, the best thing to do is leave a bit of dynamics in your tune, as the transients mask the compression artifacts. If you limit it too much and kill the peaks, then it can sound worse on soundcloud.

Soulstep wrote:I'm sure dithering is meant to make your music sound better at lower quality ??

It was suggested in a thread(can't remember where, think it might be gearslutz) that if you dither, then the mp3 encoder might spend precious bits on preserving the dither noise, rather than your music. So i don't dither for soundcloud anymore, i can't tell any difference anyway.

If anyone else has any tips on mastering for soundcloud i'd like to hear them. I've noticed some of the sounds in my tunes break up, usually when there isn't much bass and lots of high pitched wide sounds. What i tend to do now is convert to 128 to check what it sounds like, then make adjustments if i need to. Although i haven't found any adjustments that stop these sounds breaking up.

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Mon May 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Soundcloud downsamples your work to 128k.

I tihnk your just hearing bitcrushing artifacts from that process.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon May 07, 2012 10:36 pm

why are people wasting time mastering for a shitty audio rate and codec for a streaming site?

Promise One · Post by **Promise One** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:31 pm

deadly habit wrote:why are people wasting time mastering for a shitty audio rate and codec for a streaming site?

My thoughts exactly, asif we don't already have enough to do. Everyone who knows about audio knows a 128kb stream is truely awful and therefore isn't any point in trying to make a shit stream sound 0.5% better (other than uploading a WAV to be convertered to a 128kb stream rather than a already low quailty file to be transcoded, as already mentioned by Deadly) At least the stream quality stops rips or at least audiophile conscious rips!

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:01 pm

Promise One wrote:
deadly habit wrote:why are people wasting time mastering for a shitty audio rate and codec for a streaming site?

My thoughts exactly, asif we don't already have enough to do. Everyone who knows about audio knows a 128kb stream is truely awful and therefore isn't any point in trying to make a shit stream sound 0.5% better (other than uploading a WAV to be convertered to a 128kb stream rather than a already low quailty file to be transcoded, as already mentioned by Deadly) At least the stream quality stops rips or at least audiophile conscious rips!

I think you guys have missed the point of the thread. Basically we don't like our tunes sounding like crap on soundcloud and wanted to improve it. Thanks for pointing out the obvious tho.

ZankUSA · Post by **ZankUSA** » Tue May 08, 2012 3:30 pm

I always cut out off the whistles on my kicks (some frequency in the high end.)

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